An SBC Voices Poll: Who is Going to Houston?

by Dave Miller on May 7, 2013 · 115 comments

I’ll be there. Will you?

Last year, we gathered and had some good fellowship over beignets. Any interest in another get-together this year?

The floor is yours.

1 Griffin Gulledge May 7, 2013 at 7:34 am

I’ll be there, Dave! I’d love to meet you.

2 Andrew May 7, 2013 at 7:38 am

I will be there and would love to meet some of you guys

3 Mike Leake May 7, 2013 at 8:01 am

Won’t be there. Wish I was.

Can we take another poll trying to guess who the first creative genius will be that writes an article, with the title beginning, “Houston We Have a Problem…”?

4 Dave Miller May 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm

Question answered, Mike. I just posted from Jared Moore, an article with that title.

Is there a cash prize?

5 Mike Leake May 7, 2013 at 3:41 pm

LOL. I noticed that…I was wondering if Jared intentionally did that.

6 Jared Moore May 7, 2013 at 3:55 pm

Mike, thank you for calling me a Creative Genius. From now on, you call me, “Jared Moore, the Creative Genius.”

7 Mike Leake May 7, 2013 at 4:14 pm

I’ll wait on the nicknames until after you review my book….

8 John May 7, 2013 at 8:14 am

I am going to Houston. It will be my first SBC Convention. I am really looking forward to it.

9 cb scott May 7, 2013 at 8:08 pm

“It will be my first SBC Convention. I am really looking forward to it.”

That brings back memories. I made that very same statement . . . . back in ’46 . . . .1846, that is.

10 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm


Aint that back when you rode with Villa Rica?


11 cb scott May 7, 2013 at 9:50 pm


You are right. However, I could never get Villa to go to the SBC with me. Villa is a Methodist.

12 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm


13 Rick Patrick May 7, 2013 at 8:31 am

I am going. I am even planning to attend the Gospel Project breakfast– having made this decision of my own free will.

For the first time in years, due to the busy schedules of my family members, they will not be joining me, so I will be available for a get-together, as long as there is adequate security to protect me from Jared Moore and J. D. Hall.

14 Chris Roberts May 7, 2013 at 8:35 am

I volunteer to be your security detail.

15 Rick Patrick May 7, 2013 at 9:09 am

I feel safer already.

16 Max May 7, 2013 at 1:56 pm

“The LORD will go ahead of you; yes, the God of Israel will protect you from behind.” Although, you might keep your ears open for the sound of a chainsaw and/or crack of a whip.

17 cb scott May 7, 2013 at 8:09 pm

You got the money, honey,
I go the time.

18 Jeremy Parks May 7, 2013 at 9:17 pm

Any Willie quote needs to be honored.

19 Randall Cofield May 7, 2013 at 9:14 pm

Rick Patrick is angling to have himself quoted as a “Voice from Church History” in the Fall 2013 quarterly of the Gospel Project…

20 Rick Patrick May 7, 2013 at 9:55 pm

You’re right, Randall, but my backup plan (if the whole “quote thing” falls through) is to enjoy some eggs, drink strong coffee, and make certain panelist Eric Hankins is not the only Trad in the room.

“The Lord has prepared a table before me in the presence of my frienemies.”

21 Chris Roberts May 7, 2013 at 10:02 pm

You could always tag along with me at the Founder’s breakfast!

22 Rick Patrick May 7, 2013 at 10:41 pm

I’ll attend the Flounderers Breakfast over my dead body…which I now understand was Randall’s point all along.

23 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 10:44 pm


I’ll go to the Founders breakfast with you…..that should be a hoot.


24 Rick Patrick May 7, 2013 at 10:57 pm


Wouldn’t they card us at the door? Is there a secret handshake? Why does this seem like a movie with Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn? “The Calvin Crashers!”

25 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 11:14 pm


26 Chris Roberts May 8, 2013 at 2:27 am

“Wouldn’t they card us at the door? Is there a secret handshake?”

Don’t worry. I’ll get you in…

27 Randall Cofield May 7, 2013 at 10:30 pm

Rick, you may have missed the nuance: The “Voices from Church History” in TGP are…ummm…dead. :-)

And I don’t thing you’ll find any “frenemies” at TGP…just brothers in Christ.

28 Chris Roberts May 7, 2013 at 8:34 am

I’ll be there.

29 Bart Barber May 7, 2013 at 8:46 am

If the Lord is willing, I will be there.

30 David Norman May 7, 2013 at 9:10 am

I’m planning to be there.

31 Bruce H. May 7, 2013 at 9:35 am


I live in and work around Houston and know a few places you guys could consider meeting at.

Barbecue $- (5109 Kirby Dr. Phone: 713.522.2530) This is true Texas barbecue with a twist. Nothing you have ever had. This location is around the corner from Lakewood Church.

Seafood $$- ( 2621 Westpark Dr. (713) 523-7154) Someone order the Campechana De Mariscos. It is a seafood salsa. This location is around the corner from Lakewood Church.

Steak $$$ – (1201 San Jacinto St. (713) 658-9457) I have been here and felt out of place. Steaks are great. Walking distance from the George R. Brown.

Cajun $ – (The Colister, 1117 Texas Ave. (713) 229-8248) Best Red Beans & Rice and Gumbo around. It is located in Christ Church Cathedral downtown Houston. You can walk there for lunch.

Keep your receipt. If you do not like any of these restaurants I will pay for your meal, unless I think you are lying.

I pray the convention will be denominational changing this year. We do need fresh rains of the Spirit, maybe a monsoon.

32 Greg Harvey May 8, 2013 at 10:14 am

I second the Treebeards recommendation. Simply awesome.

33 David R. Brumbelow May 7, 2013 at 9:35 am

I plan to be there.

If you get to the SBC, Houston early, check out the Pre-Convention Bible Conference at Southview Baptist Church:

Paige Patterson, Jerry Vines, Phil Hoskins, Jeff Schreve, Malcolm Ellis, Bill Harrell.

David R. Brumbelow

34 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 10:44 am


I wish this Bible Conference was our SBC Pastors Conf. I may not attend the Pastors Conference this year. Is anyone having an alternative?


35 David R. Brumbelow May 7, 2013 at 11:34 am

David V.,
I’m going to be Street Preaching in the hallways during Pastor’s Conference; want to join me? We can do a tag-team.

Seriously, I don’t know all the speakers at the SBC Pastor’s Conference, but some I do know are good preachers. Even went to school with a fellow named Rodney Woo. I think it will be well worth attending.
David R. Brumbelow

36 Chris Roberts May 7, 2013 at 11:10 am

Alas, I won’t be getting there until the 10th.

Are you related to the pastor?

37 David R. Brumbelow May 7, 2013 at 11:28 am

What makes you think that? Never heard of him.
OK, just between you and me, he might be my brother.
David R. Brumbelow

38 Kyle B. Gulledge May 8, 2013 at 10:16 am

Thanks for helping us get the word out about this conference. We are very excited about hosting it. If anyone has any questions regarding the pre-SBC conference feel free to email me:

39 Jared Moore May 7, 2013 at 9:42 am

I’ll be there, Lord willing.

40 Micah Fries May 7, 2013 at 9:42 am

I’ll be there for the express purpose of, once again, laying eyes on Dave Miller’s lime green jacket and accompanying skirt. *grin*

41 Dave Miller May 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm

Pants, dude. Pants!

42 Micah Fries May 7, 2013 at 3:36 pm

not the picture I saw ;-)

43 Chris Roberts May 7, 2013 at 8:20 pm

Seeing as how it’s being held in Houston, I thought pants were optional this year? In fact, word has it there will be a floor recommendation that everyone be required to wear shorts, though forbidding spandex.

44 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 9:31 pm

I’m wearing spandex…just for Chris Roberts. I’ve got this body suit….looks kind of like the black, spider man suit…


45 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 9:32 pm

I’m also wearing my speedo swimsuit to the hot tub meeting.


46 Bob Cleveland May 7, 2013 at 9:57 am

Peg & I will be there. Our pastor Mike Shaw will be, too.

Hadn’t heard about the Gospel Project Breakfast. I’d like to go, if curmudgeons are allowed.

47 Micah Fries May 7, 2013 at 11:25 am


Consider yourself invited.

48 David R. Brumbelow May 7, 2013 at 10:32 am

Also, before or after the SBC at the George R. Brown Convention Center, Houston, TX –
be sure to visit the San Jacinto Battlegrounds, where Texas won it’s independence in 1836.
It’s just 20 miles east of the site of this year’s SBC.

San Jacinto Battleground and Battleship Texas:

David R. Brumbelow

49 Bruce H. May 7, 2013 at 10:38 am

Good eating, too. Best fried shrimp around. You may hurt yourself, but you will not die.

50 David R. Brumbelow May 7, 2013 at 11:03 am

Good point.
The Monument Inn is located by the San Jacinto Battlegrounds and right next to the Lynchburg Ferry.

Be sure to go across the Houston Ship Channel on the Ferry, it’s free. The Lynchburg Ferry began in 1820, but it’s boats have been updated a little since then.
David R. Brumbelow

51 volfan007 May 7, 2013 at 10:47 am

I am planning on being in Houston….along with my wife and my Mom and Dad.


52 John Wylie May 7, 2013 at 10:52 am

Lord willing I will be there and I will be attending the conference at Southview.

53 Andrew May 7, 2013 at 10:55 am

What is the conference at SOuthview?

54 Andrew May 7, 2013 at 10:57 am

Never mind figured it out

55 David R. Brumbelow May 7, 2013 at 11:07 am

Look forward to seeing you at Southview.
David R. Brumbelow

56 John Wylie May 7, 2013 at 11:36 pm

Thanks Brother,

I look forward to seeing you too. And this is going to be a good one.

57 Howell Scott May 7, 2013 at 10:55 am

Lord willing, I’ll be there. Coming this year with my Music Pastor. Looking forward to the fellowship.

58 Dave Miller May 7, 2013 at 3:24 pm

Plan any appendectomies while you are there?

59 Ben Coleman May 7, 2013 at 7:53 pm

Does one usually plan those?

60 Bob Cleveland May 11, 2013 at 9:20 am

Mine was planned. Several days in advance.

61 Ben Coleman May 13, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Bob, I’ll let you and Howell fight this one out.

62 Howell Scott May 7, 2013 at 8:14 pm

Members of my church already think my out-of-town trips are somehow responsible for my previous two appendectomies. If I go to Houston and have an appendectomy while there or shortly after I return from the SBC annual meeting, they will never let me leave New Mexico again! And, Ben, you most definitely do not plan those. If I could have planned my last appendectomy, it certainly wouldn’t have been on Palm Sunday :-)

63 Dave Miller May 8, 2013 at 10:36 am

I’m still a little bit mind-boggled by Howell’s medical situation. As I understand it, an appendectomy is the REMOVAL of the appendix. How does one have two of them? As best I know, the appendix ratio is still one per person.

I have to suspect that Howell is using the appendectomy excuse to cover some kind of clandestine op he is involved with. For all his verbiage, I suspect he is a lackey of the power elite and does black ops work for them.

It’s a theory.

64 Rick Patrick May 8, 2013 at 1:20 pm

Not bad. Dave. With a little more practice, you’ll be ready to spin some real conspiracy theories.

Did you know my appendix was removed in 1973? Howell and I agree on much concerning the GCR. Perhaps the true fault lines in the SBC are centered around appendectomies.

65 Howell Scott May 8, 2013 at 1:52 pm


Had a comment ready to post earlier this morning, but the computer decided to time out on the page before it posted. You are entirely correct that an appendectomy is supposed to remove the appendix. It is always helpful if the doctor actually removes said appendix during the surgery!

As to your theory about my appendectomy “cover,” you are getting far too close to the truth for me to just let this go. You won’t know when or where or how, but I will get you. This is how it might go down. You will be walking down the street when someone you know — perhaps even a mailman you know — motions you to get in the car with him. You won’t see it coming before it’s too late. After all, surprise and stealth are what the power elites want in their lackeys ;-)

66 Dave Miller May 8, 2013 at 2:00 pm

Doesn’t admitting that you are PART of the conspiracy kind of nullify its impact and effect?

67 Doug Hibbard May 7, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Not going. It’s hot enough here, I don’t need to head further south to sweat.

68 Dave Miller May 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm

Last time I was in Houston was the 1979 SBC convention (beginning of the CR). I was young and thin and I thought I would DIE walking to the convention center.

69 Andy May 7, 2013 at 12:52 pm

I will be there, and will be there from the 7th on!!!

Come by MABTS’ booth and visit. I would love to meet all you guys in person!

70 Bart Barber May 8, 2013 at 8:19 am

Don’t anyone get confused. Andy will be at the MABTS booth. Don’t look for him at the MWBTS booth.

(Andy, just in case you’re wondering why I just posted this puzzling and nonsensical comment, it’s because I delight in tweaking those SBC Voices readers who go nuclear when one abbreviates Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary as MWBTS).

71 Chris Roberts May 8, 2013 at 10:06 am

Plus some of us are dense enough to have seen MABTS but thought MWBTS. The clarification is helpful.

72 Doug Hibbard May 8, 2013 at 11:26 am

I think we need a motion rename the Kansas City Seminary to stop the confusion. I had several people call me and ask about Mid-America’s presidential transition this past year and I was really, really confused since Dr. Spradlin hasn’t gone anywhere.

Then I figured out they were asking about Midwestern and Dr. Allen.

So, let’s rename Midwestern to Kansas City Seminary or something like that :)

73 SBC Historian May 8, 2013 at 11:35 am

Since Midwestern has been in existence longer than Mid-America, why doesn’t the latter change her name? You could call it Memphis Seminary. But maybe because the school was located 3 different states in a 4 year period, it’s not a good idea to name it after a city. Never know when it might move again :)

74 Doug Hibbard May 8, 2013 at 11:53 am

Well, first, there’s already a Memphis Seminary. Second, MABTS is also in New York.

And, ultimately, the SBC can’t really do anything about MABTS since it’s an independent school. Midwestern, on the other hand….

Plus, I have Mid-America coffee mugs and don’t want them to be obsolete.

75 Ben Coleman May 8, 2013 at 12:24 pm

“Plus, I have Mid-America coffee mugs and don’t want them to be obsolete.”

If they do change Mid-America’s name, don’t think of them as obsolete. Think of them as increasingly rare collectibles.

76 Doug Hibbard May 8, 2013 at 11:56 am

And MABTS has been pretty stable since the Memphis move, and that was 1976, so they’ve been in the same place longer than some of our commenters have been alive.

77 dean May 8, 2013 at 12:01 pm

Doug, I want to congratulate you guys. I understand you got most of your roads paved on the campus. :)

78 volfan007 May 8, 2013 at 12:26 pm

Mid America has moved some, but it’s a very stable school….for as long as God wants it to be around…my life was blessed at Mid America in a great way. I thank God for this school. BTW, I went to Mid America back in the years when it was in Mid town Memphis….close to the old Bellevue Baptist Church. Our chapel was an old Jewish Synagogue….beautiful old building, too.


79 Doug Hibbard May 8, 2013 at 12:32 pm

I went to Mid-America when us students had to commute up from Mississippi. Had to put shoes on and everything before we went to class.


80 Doug Hibbard May 8, 2013 at 12:38 pm

vol, I do think it’s interesting that MABTS really built itself downtown near old Bellevue, and now it’s right by the new Bellevue. Funny how things like that happen.

81 Stephen May 7, 2013 at 1:23 pm

I won’t be able to make it, but I trust a sizeable group will be present to elect a suitable 2nd Vice President to lead our convention in such lime-colored times.

82 Dave Miller May 7, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Smart aleck.

83 Micah Fries May 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm

I’m pretty sure that smart > dumb. #stephenwins

84 Clark Dunlap May 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm

I’m going, sounds like fun
my first SBC
Not my first time in Houston
lived there for several years one spring in 75
No truth to the rumor that Santa Anna surrendered on the Battleship Texas.
When do we meet?
And Most Importantly…..

What the heck is a beignet?

85 Dave Miller May 7, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Cafe du Monde, in the French quarter of NOLA. Powdered sugar coated pastry. Very good

86 Randall Cofield May 7, 2013 at 9:11 pm

I’m planning to be there, God willing and the Trad creek don’t rise…

87 Jeremy Parks May 7, 2013 at 9:19 pm

So last year I was living in Houston on stateside assignment – and how many SBC conventions were in town? Yeah.

Someone slap the schedule-maker for me.

88 William Thornton May 8, 2013 at 5:39 am

I hate to miss Houston in mid-June…in the same way I miss root canals.

…am looking for an expense account absent which, I will not be attending.

89 Dave Miller May 8, 2013 at 10:32 am

I’ll donate a dollar to the “Send the Plodder to Houston” fund. Maybe even 5. Anyone else?

90 dean May 8, 2013 at 11:33 am

I would but my budget and finance committee read some jack wagon’s blog somewhere and decided to cut my housing allowance. I now have not extra funds to donate to this cause.

91 William Thornton May 8, 2013 at 1:10 pm

Hmmm, they have a problem with our sacred tax break?

92 Rick Patrick May 8, 2013 at 1:04 pm

Put me down for 10. And a free bed at the Hilton if he doesn’t snore.

93 dean May 8, 2013 at 10:10 am

Guys, lets handle the real significant matters concerning the convention right now on Voices. From my previous trips to Houston you got to eat at Papadeaux seafood kitchen. They also have a Papadeaux Italian that is outstanding. I’m not crazy about all of you but I will let any of you buy me a meal at one of these two places. :)

94 Dave Miller May 8, 2013 at 10:21 am

I appreciate someone with their priorities in order!

95 Job May 8, 2013 at 11:01 am

Frenemies? Oh well. At least he is honest.

96 Rick Patrick May 8, 2013 at 12:56 pm

= “Friends With Whom You Disagree But Whose Company You Enjoy”

97 Job May 8, 2013 at 2:51 pm

@Rick Patrick:

Those are simply called friends.

Frenemies are enemies who for one reason or another have need or affection for one another. U.S. and Soviet Union: enemies forced to become allies during World War II due to the existential threat posed by German/Italian/Japanese fascism is a good example. The temporary alliances made by Saddam Hussein in response to the first Iraq War (with Osama bin Laden and Iran) is another good example. Or if you are into such trivialities as comic books and popular culture: Catwoman and Batman or Professor X and Magneto liking to enjoy each other’s company when circumstances allow them to take a break from trying to kill each other is a good example.

Calvinist and non-Calvinist Baptists, who have been in the same churches and denominations since the movement started in 1609? Not a good example.

98 Dave Miller May 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Wow, are we really gonna argue C/non-C on this post?

99 volfan007 May 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm


100 Rick Patrick May 8, 2013 at 8:54 pm

From the Oxford Dictionary: “Frenemy” (alternately spelled “frienemy”) is a portmanteau of “friend” and “enemy” that can refer to either (1) an enemy pretending to be your friend or (2) someone who really is your friend but is also a rival.

Trust me, Job, I was using the term in the second sense listed. We are friends who happen to be theological debating partners. Please don’t read anything pejorative into my use of the term. I meant it in its friendliest sense. I trust, as a friend, you’ll give me the benefit of the doubt on this.

101 Dave Miller May 8, 2013 at 10:03 pm


Isn’t that an alcoholic beverage?

102 volfan007 May 8, 2013 at 10:19 pm

Has Rick gone to boozing?


103 Doug Hibbard May 8, 2013 at 10:34 pm

Actually, Rick is gearing up to preach around the convention in 80 days with his sidekick, Portmanteau, the cousin of Phineas Fogg’s faithful helper Passporteau.

104 Rick Patrick May 8, 2013 at 10:34 pm

A portmanteau is either (1) a large suitcase divided into two compartments, or (2) a word that combines two or more words and meanings into a new word.

105 Greg Harvey May 9, 2013 at 10:00 am

Ar you taking your portmanteau to Katmandu?

Btw, when it comes to specific portmanteaux (as opposed to port-man-toes), make sure you enjoy the “smog” in Houston. It’s by etymology a combination of “smoke” and “fog”, but smashed together it turns into a totally undelightful and unbreathable portmanteau.

106 Ben Coleman May 9, 2013 at 10:06 am

Can you step on a port man’s toes?

107 Greg Harvey May 9, 2013 at 10:35 am

He can’t see them so he might…you might not get close enough if he’s truly portly.

108 Joshua T May 8, 2013 at 11:43 am

My father-in-law will be attending. He has reserved a room with space for me. But my wife is due with our second child. So its highly unlikely that I was have the blessing of attending in Houston (despite living in Austin…).

109 Dave Miller May 8, 2013 at 5:16 pm

You would let the birth of a child interrupt a trip to the SBC?

Your priorities are suspicious!

110 Joshua T May 8, 2013 at 5:46 pm

No, my grammar is suspicious (“was have”?!?!?!). My priorities are exactly as my wife set them. Correction required? Maybe. Suspicion? Ehhh. :-)

111 Doug Hibbard May 8, 2013 at 7:51 pm

I cannot believe you would call your own grandmother suspicious in a public forum like this.

112 Greg Harvey May 9, 2013 at 10:04 am

I probably would (let the birth of a child interrupt a trip to the SBC), but more importantly my living in Houston was interrupted by the birth of a child there way back in 1997. (Ok, Nassau Bay to be very specific, but we were living in Houston at the time.)

She’s my delightful Kelsey and she’s about to finish her sophomore year of high school. My…how…time…flies…

113 Jess Alford May 8, 2013 at 3:30 pm

What goes on in Huston, stays in Huston, right?

114 Jess Alford May 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm

The reason I asked this question, the C’s are bad for comming back
and telling what they have seen.

115 Louis May 8, 2013 at 10:24 pm

I plan on coming with my pastor, another elder and the pastor of one of our church plants.

I met Bob Cleveland last year.

Hope I can meet many of you.

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