Comments on: Concerning the Apocrypha… http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/ Southern Baptist News & Opinion Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:16:28 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anair http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1846 Anair Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:37:33 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1846 The books were never part of the Canon. Some individual early church leaders used them and considered them fairly highly. It wasn't until the Council of Trent in 1500s that the Roman Catholic Church added the Apocrypha. Other Orthodox churches use them too. A good academic book is "The Canon of Scripture" by F.F. Bruce The books were never part of the Canon. Some individual early church leaders used them and considered them fairly highly. It wasn’t until the Council of Trent in 1500s that the Roman Catholic Church added the Apocrypha. Other Orthodox churches use them too.

A good academic book is “The Canon of Scripture” by F.F. Bruce

]]> By: Bradley Cochran http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1212 Bradley Cochran Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:50:51 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1212 "What are your thoughts regarding how the books became separated and are considered uninspired?" ___________________ The main emphasis I have received for my similar questions is that the Apocrypha contradicts the rest of the Bible. However, many of the examples were given in such a way that demonstrated to me that not much effort had been put into even attempting to reconcile the areas which seemed to contradict each other. Furthermore, I notice that our own canon seems to contradict itself, but we typically exert much energy to reconcile such apparent contradictions. I've always had a hunch that if we Protestants put the same kind of apologetic energy into exploring all the ways the apparent contradictions between non-Apocryphal teachings and the Apocryphal writings, we might be just as successful as we are in reconciling our own canonical writings. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Bradley Cochrans last blog post..<a href="http://theophilogue.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/what-martin-luther-really-said-luthers-sola-fide/" rel="nofollow">What Martin Luther Really Said ::: Luther’s Sola Fide</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> “What are your thoughts regarding how the books became separated and are considered uninspired?”
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The main emphasis I have received for my similar questions is that the Apocrypha contradicts the rest of the Bible. However, many of the examples were given in such a way that demonstrated to me that not much effort had been put into even attempting to reconcile the areas which seemed to contradict each other. Furthermore, I notice that our own canon seems to contradict itself, but we typically exert much energy to reconcile such apparent contradictions.

I’ve always had a hunch that if we Protestants put the same kind of apologetic energy into exploring all the ways the apparent contradictions between non-Apocryphal teachings and the Apocryphal writings, we might be just as successful as we are in reconciling our own canonical writings.

Bradley Cochrans last blog post..What Martin Luther Really Said ::: Luther’s Sola Fide

]]> By: Sallie http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1204 Sallie Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:10:35 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1204 Bill, I've heard of the debate for both sides of why Baptist are or aren't. I've found it wise, since I haven't got a clue really on which side of the coin is correct, to just stay out of that debate :-) God bless, Sallie Bill, I’ve heard of the debate for both sides of why Baptist are or aren’t. I’ve found it wise, since I haven’t got a clue really on which side of the coin is correct, to just stay out of that debate :-)

God bless,
Sallie

]]> By: Bill http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1203 Bill Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:16:11 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1203 Sallie: Baptists are protestants. Sallie: Baptists are protestants.

]]> By: Sallie http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1200 Sallie Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:53:18 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1200 Dr. Foltz -- I have read that before :-) I have also read other articles, and records of Baptists before the reformation (though, it's been a while and I'd have to look things up so please don't ask me to quote anything). I only said Protestant translations meaning as opposed to Roman Catholic. Were there ever any Baptist translations of the Bible? I'm reading about Bible translations now but don't recall, although I'm still in the early translations and not all the recent ones of the last century. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Sallies last blog post..<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sc/anderklan/seasidetales/index.blog?entry_id=1353527" rel="nofollow">High School Home School Question...</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Dr. Foltz — I have read that before :-) I have also read other articles, and records of Baptists before the reformation (though, it’s been a while and I’d have to look things up so please don’t ask me to quote anything).

I only said Protestant translations meaning as opposed to Roman Catholic. Were there ever any Baptist translations of the Bible? I’m reading about Bible translations now but don’t recall, although I’m still in the early translations and not all the recent ones of the last century.

Sallies last blog post..High School Home School Question…

]]> By: Rob http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1197 Rob Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:41:11 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1197 I've only given these a cursory read, but have never given these books much consideration. I think Wayne Grudem's Systematic Theology makes some good comments about why these, and other books, aren't included in the canon. I’ve only given these a cursory read, but have never given these books much consideration. I think Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology makes some good comments about why these, and other books, aren’t included in the canon.

]]> By: Dr. Paul W' Foltz http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1193 Dr. Paul W' Foltz Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:26:54 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1193 Dear Sallie, The AV1611 Translators also translated it and put a note by it, saying it was not inspired by God. I have read it. It is a collection of mythological tales, quite different from what we have in the Bible. Baptists are not protestants. Read ''THE TRAIL OF BLOOD'' by JM CARROLL. IT'S ONLINE. Dear Sallie,
The AV1611 Translators also translated it and put a note by it, saying it was not inspired by God.

I have read it. It is a collection of mythological tales, quite different from what we have in the Bible.

Baptists are not protestants. Read ”THE TRAIL OF BLOOD” by
JM CARROLL. IT’S ONLINE.

]]> By: Sallie http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1190 Sallie Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:46:35 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1190 Thanks for the comments and I look forward to many more. I have always looked at them as being historical in reading, from what few bits I had gathered about them. Then, I read their were old testament ones and new testament ones (which you spoke of I believe Debbie and David as being falsified) so my mind continues to wander the gammut of thoughts relating to their relation to the Bible and when the books, or passages I should say, were written. I knew I could get some good information here :-) In Christ, Sallie <abbr><em><abbr><em>Sallies last blog post..<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sc/anderklan/seasidetales/index.blog?entry_id=1353527" rel="nofollow">High School Home School Question...</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Thanks for the comments and I look forward to many more. I have always looked at them as being historical in reading, from what few bits I had gathered about them. Then, I read their were old testament ones and new testament ones (which you spoke of I believe Debbie and David as being falsified) so my mind continues to wander the gammut of thoughts relating to their relation to the Bible and when the books, or passages I should say, were written. I knew I could get some good information here :-)

In Christ,
Sallie

Sallies last blog post..High School Home School Question…

]]> By: David R. Brumbelow http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1186 David R. Brumbelow Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:10:20 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1186 Sallie, Good comments and questions. Contrary to what many say, the Apocryphal books are not the lost, hidden, or suppressed books of the Bible. They are the rejected books of the Bible. Some ancient books (not necessarily talking about Apocryphal books here) were rejected because they were heretical. Some because they were inaccurate or falsely claimed an author who had not written it. Some were good books, they just were not divinely and unerringly inspired like the 66 books of the Bible. We have many good Christian books today, but none that should be added to the Bible. They had the same thing 2,000 years ago. Baptists and Evangelicals have never accepted the Apocryphal books as being on the same level as Scripture. The Apocryphal books are fine to read and some contain interesting history, etc. Just don’t put them on the same level as divinely inspired Scripture. David R. Brumbelow Sallie,
Good comments and questions. Contrary to what many say, the Apocryphal books are not the lost, hidden, or suppressed books of the Bible. They are the rejected books of the Bible.

Some ancient books (not necessarily talking about Apocryphal books here) were rejected because they were heretical. Some because they were inaccurate or falsely claimed an author who had not written it. Some were good books, they just were not divinely and unerringly inspired like the 66 books of the Bible. We have many good Christian books today, but none that should be added to the Bible. They had the same thing 2,000 years ago.

Baptists and Evangelicals have never accepted the Apocryphal books as being on the same level as Scripture.

The Apocryphal books are fine to read and some contain interesting history, etc. Just don’t put them on the same level as divinely inspired Scripture.
David R. Brumbelow

]]> By: Scott Warren http://sbcvoices.com/concerning-the-apocrypha/#comment-1185 Scott Warren Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:52:03 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=788#comment-1185 Very much like you said, when I first heard of the apocrypha no one had heard of it or if they had, they hadn't read it. Me being curious/nosy decided to read it. I enjoyed Tobit and can see some wonderful lessons in it. The Maccabees give some History and make for an interesting read. They also help understand Daniel's Prophecies. Susanna is a story that introduces a young Daniel. Bel and the Dragon is another story from Daniel that talks of false gods. Those were my favorites. Men smarter than me said it shouldn't be in the bible so I'm staying out of that debate ,but i do think anyone who seriously wants to study the bible and are strong in their beliefs should read it. John MacArthur actually did use 1 st Maccabees in a sermon on the abomination of desolation. I'll include a couple of links to some free pdf's for you to check out. I hope I was some help to you. Good Luck and God bless. http://www.revelationofjohn.com/Writings.aspx http://www.davince.com/content/blogcategory/14/33/ Very much like you said, when I first heard of the apocrypha no one had heard of it or if they had, they hadn’t read it. Me being curious/nosy decided to read it. I enjoyed Tobit and can see some wonderful lessons in it. The Maccabees give some History and make for an interesting read. They also help understand Daniel’s Prophecies. Susanna is a story that introduces a young Daniel. Bel and the Dragon is another story from Daniel that talks of false gods. Those were my favorites. Men smarter than me said it shouldn’t be in the bible so I’m staying out of that debate ,but i do think anyone who seriously wants to study the bible and are strong in their beliefs should read it. John MacArthur actually did use 1 st Maccabees in a sermon on the abomination of desolation. I’ll include a couple of links to some free pdf’s for you to check out. I hope I was some help to you. Good Luck and God bless.

http://www.revelationofjohn.com/Writings.aspx
http://www.davince.com/content/blogcategory/14/33/

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