Comments on: Martin Luther King Jr. At SBTS http://sbcvoices.com/ml/ Southern Baptist News & Opinion Tue, 22 May 2012 11:40:53 +0000 hourly 1 By: Matt Svoboda http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1282 Matt Svoboda Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:00:12 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1282 I agree that it is a sad case when that happens. But a few pastors does not represent the majority of the SBC, that is all I am saying. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Matt Svobodas last blog post..<a href="http://evangelicalvillage.com/2009/01/21/the-logical-result-of-a-trajectory-hermeneutic/" rel="nofollow">the logical result of a trajectory hermeneutic…</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> I agree that it is a sad case when that happens. But a few pastors does not represent the majority of the SBC, that is all I am saying.

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]]> By: RA http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1281 RA Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:43:39 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1281 Like which ones? It seems to me that someone that speaks of the atrocities that a man has spoken in the pulpit could at least name a few things. But then, if a person just assumes that those atrocities have been spoken, it makes sense that they wouldn't be able to name any. Nevermind. You've already confirmed what I already knew. I never said anything about racial hatred in the SBC. You are getting a little carried away. But it is impossible to deny widespread bigotry when a Republican SBC pastor is so taken aback that he pens an article in a Baptist publication called "Baptists, Bigotry and Barack Obama" and says the most offensive emails he received were from fellow pastors. Not just a few random members. From pastors!!! That's a pretty sad case. I would say it speaks for itself. Like Debbie Kaufman said, the SBC has a long way to go. And judging from the Amen Corner, it is going to take a long time to get there. Like which ones? It seems to me that someone that speaks of the atrocities that a man has spoken in the pulpit could at least name a few things. But then, if a person just assumes that those atrocities have been spoken, it makes sense that they wouldn’t be able to name any.

Nevermind. You’ve already confirmed what I already knew.

I never said anything about racial hatred in the SBC. You are getting a little carried away. But it is impossible to deny widespread bigotry when a Republican SBC pastor is so taken aback that he pens an article in a Baptist publication called “Baptists, Bigotry and Barack Obama” and says the most offensive emails he received were from fellow pastors.

Not just a few random members. From pastors!!! That’s a pretty sad case. I would say it speaks for itself.

Like Debbie Kaufman said, the SBC has a long way to go. And judging from the Amen Corner, it is going to take a long time to get there.

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1280 Matt Svoboda Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:24:27 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1280 Ra, You are hopeless. I dislike his BLT preaching. Maybe not all of Redmonds observations dont apply to Wright, but some certainly do. So I dislike the ones that do... Clear? I was arguing that racial hatred is not still prevalent in the SBC. I don't know how you got racial hatred and Black Liberation Theology confused. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Matt Svobodas last blog post..<a href="http://evangelicalvillage.com/2009/01/21/the-logical-result-of-a-trajectory-hermeneutic/" rel="nofollow">the logical result of a trajectory hermeneutic…</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Ra,

You are hopeless. I dislike his BLT preaching. Maybe not all of Redmonds observations dont apply to Wright, but some certainly do. So I dislike the ones that do… Clear?

I was arguing that racial hatred is not still prevalent in the SBC. I don’t know how you got racial hatred and Black Liberation Theology confused.

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]]> By: RA http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1279 RA Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:51:41 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1279 Yes, I looked at it. I'm really not interested in what Eric Redmond's points of views and observations about the BLT are. I am specifically interested in your point of view about Rev. Wright. Just because Eric Redmond makes sweeping observations about BLT does not mean that those necessarily apply to Rev. Wright. Maybe some do. Maybe some don't. To just dismiss him as being just another BLT preacher is just a stereotype which I thought is what you were arguing against as being prevalent in the SBC. You seem to be only re-enforcing it. Is it your position that everything listed by Redmond applies to Wright and his preaching? That seems to be your assumption. What exactly is it that you believe Wright believes that causes you to dislike the man and dismiss his ministry? Yes, I looked at it. I’m really not interested in what Eric Redmond’s points of views and observations about the BLT are. I am specifically interested in your point of view about Rev. Wright. Just because Eric Redmond makes sweeping observations about BLT does not mean that those necessarily apply to Rev. Wright. Maybe some do. Maybe some don’t.

To just dismiss him as being just another BLT preacher is just a stereotype which I thought is what you were arguing against as being prevalent in the SBC. You seem to be only re-enforcing it. Is it your position that everything listed by Redmond applies to Wright and his preaching? That seems to be your assumption.

What exactly is it that you believe Wright believes that causes you to dislike the man and dismiss his ministry?

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1278 Matt Svoboda Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:32:22 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1278 Did you even read what I quoted from Eric Redmond? There are very specific theological things stated in that quote. If you will read the quotes you will have your examples that you have been asking for. (Which I posted like 5 comments ago) Did you even read what I quoted from Eric Redmond? There are very specific theological things stated in that quote. If you will read the quotes you will have your examples that you have been asking for. (Which I posted like 5 comments ago)

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1277 Matt Svoboda Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:19:56 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1277 What else does one need except to point to an ENTIRE theological system that he believes! <abbr><em><abbr><em>Matt Svobodas last blog post..<a href="http://evangelicalvillage.com/2009/01/21/the-logical-result-of-a-trajectory-hermeneutic/" rel="nofollow">the logical result of a trajectory hermeneutic…</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> What else does one need except to point to an ENTIRE theological system that he believes!

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]]> By: RA http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1276 RA Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:58:18 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1276 I'm not dodging it. I'm trying to take it on directly by having you state one example of what it is that you think Rev. Wright believes to determine if the man is guilty as charged and worthy of your judgment. But you can only fall back on BLT. I’m not dodging it. I’m trying to take it on directly by having you state one example of what it is that you think Rev. Wright believes to determine if the man is guilty as charged and worthy of your judgment. But you can only fall back on BLT.

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1275 Matt Svoboda Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:55:16 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1275 RA, What is interesting is that you keep dodging the theology I bring up. I even give you extensive quotes and you remain silent. It would serve you well to stop thinking, 'this is a white man not understanding a black man' and start addressing the theology. This could go on forever so I am going to stop here. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Matt Svobodas last blog post..<a href="http://evangelicalvillage.com/2009/01/21/the-logical-result-of-a-trajectory-hermeneutic/" rel="nofollow">the logical result of a trajectory hermeneutic…</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> RA,

What is interesting is that you keep dodging the theology I bring up. I even give you extensive quotes and you remain silent. It would serve you well to stop thinking, ‘this is a white man not understanding a black man’ and start addressing the theology.

This could go on forever so I am going to stop here.

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]]> By: RA http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1274 RA Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:47:52 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1274 I have to say that this seems to me to simply be a stereotype you have of the man. More specifically, it is a black stereotype which is what this thread has been about. I don't think you have heard the man preach other than the soundbite and apparently cannot point to anything specific. If you can, I'd be interested in what it is that you have objected to as unchristian. That is why I referred you to the Bill Moyers interview. He explains what his beliefs actually are and addresses many of these stereotypes which you have fallen for. I have to say that this seems to me to simply be a stereotype you have of the man. More specifically, it is a black stereotype which is what this thread has been about. I don’t think you have heard the man preach other than the soundbite and apparently cannot point to anything specific. If you can, I’d be interested in what it is that you have objected to as unchristian.

That is why I referred you to the Bill Moyers interview. He explains what his beliefs actually are and addresses many of these stereotypes which you have fallen for.

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://sbcvoices.com/ml/#comment-1273 Matt Svoboda Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:39:23 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=812#comment-1273 BLT is not just a 'movement' it is a theological system. Wouldn't you not like a preacher if he preached heresies that were unscriptural? <abbr><em><abbr><em>Matt Svobodas last blog post..<a href="http://evangelicalvillage.com/2009/01/21/5-churches-to-learn-from/" rel="nofollow">5 Churches to Learn From</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> BLT is not just a ‘movement’ it is a theological system. Wouldn’t you not like a preacher if he preached heresies that were unscriptural?

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