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		<title>By: Potty Mouthed Preachers?! &#171; TentmakersTips</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-7114</link>
		<dc:creator>Potty Mouthed Preachers?! &#171; TentmakersTips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Okay, I know we don&#8217;t live in the days of Theodore &#8220;The Beave&#8221; Cleaver any more, but I was surprised to find pastors in my denomination (SBC) having serious discussions about profanity in the pulpit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Okay, I know we don&#8217;t live in the days of Theodore &#8220;The Beave&#8221; Cleaver any more, but I was surprised to find pastors in my denomination (SBC) having serious discussions about profanity in the pulpit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Passing the Gospel Torch- A Clarification from Ezra 3 &#124; Southern Baptist Blogs - SBC Voices</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3760</link>
		<dc:creator>Passing the Gospel Torch- A Clarification from Ezra 3 &#124; Southern Baptist Blogs - SBC Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week or so ago I made a comment about the &#8220;older generation&#8221; needing to &#8220;pass off the torch to the younger [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Newell</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3646</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.

AGAIN, people, no one (not even Guillaume above) is disputing that &quot;Highway to Hell&quot; -- or even similar songs, for that matter -- is &lt;i&gt;in and of itself&lt;/i&gt; &quot;praiseworthy, worshipful, glorifying to God,&quot; etc. etc. etc.  Let us &lt;i&gt;please&lt;/i&gt; get this through our thick Baptist skulls.  Have you done that yet?

Such a song is an &lt;i&gt;illlustrative&lt;/i&gt; picture.  It is illustrative of the second half of Romans 1.  Further, to completely rebut David&#039;s likely overlooking of Scripture, I&#039;m positive he has forgotten, for example, Luke 12:13-21.  A song such as the one mentioned in this long meta (which has gotten rather ridiculous) is also &lt;i&gt;illustrative&lt;/i&gt; of such a text!  The man mentioned in the parable has glorified his life of sin!  Or what about the Scripture &quot;eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die?&quot;

Can that be simply grasped?  Understood?  Agreed upon?  

If it can, why in the world are we majoring in a minor here?
.-= Stephen Newell´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://stephennewell.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/no-mr-president/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No, Mr. President&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>AGAIN, people, no one (not even Guillaume above) is disputing that &#8220;Highway to Hell&#8221; &#8212; or even similar songs, for that matter &#8212; is <i>in and of itself</i> &#8220;praiseworthy, worshipful, glorifying to God,&#8221; etc. etc. etc.  Let us <i>please</i> get this through our thick Baptist skulls.  Have you done that yet?</p>
<p>Such a song is an <i>illlustrative</i> picture.  It is illustrative of the second half of Romans 1.  Further, to completely rebut David&#8217;s likely overlooking of Scripture, I&#8217;m positive he has forgotten, for example, Luke 12:13-21.  A song such as the one mentioned in this long meta (which has gotten rather ridiculous) is also <i>illustrative</i> of such a text!  The man mentioned in the parable has glorified his life of sin!  Or what about the Scripture &#8220;eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die?&#8221;</p>
<p>Can that be simply grasped?  Understood?  Agreed upon?  </p>
<p>If it can, why in the world are we majoring in a minor here?<br />
.-= Stephen Newell´s last blog ..<a href="http://stephennewell.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/no-mr-president/" rel="nofollow">No, Mr. President</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lamprecht</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3629</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Lamprecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even....uh....better?

Thanks.
[rq=4419,0,blog][/rq]&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hereiblog/XMYK/~3/afvbBufG9rw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IssuesEtc on Free Will&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even&#8230;.uh&#8230;.better?</p>
<p>Thanks.<br />
[rq=4419,0,blog][/rq]<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hereiblog/XMYK/~3/afvbBufG9rw/" rel="nofollow">IssuesEtc on Free Will</a></p>
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		<title>By: Todd Burus</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3626</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Burus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what its&#039; worth, the one MacArthur referenced (and hence likely the one most people are familiar with here) was the one made on television, but Driscoll has mentioned variations on this from the pulpit before as well.
[rq=4259,0,blog][/rq]&lt;a href=&quot;http://toddongod.com/2009/06/11/cynicism-and-the-sinners-prayer-peters-instruction-in-acts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cynicism and The Sinner’s Prayer- Peter’s Instruction in Acts&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what its&#8217; worth, the one MacArthur referenced (and hence likely the one most people are familiar with here) was the one made on television, but Driscoll has mentioned variations on this from the pulpit before as well.<br />
[rq=4259,0,blog][/rq]<a href="http://toddongod.com/2009/06/11/cynicism-and-the-sinners-prayer-peters-instruction-in-acts/" rel="nofollow">Cynicism and The Sinner’s Prayer- Peter’s Instruction in Acts</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lamprecht</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3618</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Lamprecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to Driscoll, the masturbation joke was on national TV.  It was not in the pulpit.  Maybe I&#039;m missing something and there was one told from the pulpit.  Yes/no?  I don&#039;t know.

Todd, I&#039;m still thinking about this and do have some more thoughts. Hence, I&#039;m still thinking. ;)
[rq=4125,0,blog][/rq]&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hereiblog/XMYK/~3/afvbBufG9rw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IssuesEtc on Free Will&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to Driscoll, the masturbation joke was on national TV.  It was not in the pulpit.  Maybe I&#8217;m missing something and there was one told from the pulpit.  Yes/no?  I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Todd, I&#8217;m still thinking about this and do have some more thoughts. Hence, I&#8217;m still thinking. <img src='http://sbcvoices.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
[rq=4125,0,blog][/rq]<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hereiblog/XMYK/~3/afvbBufG9rw/" rel="nofollow">IssuesEtc on Free Will</a></p>
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		<title>By: G F McDowell</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3608</link>
		<dc:creator>G F McDowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Paul sarcastically wished that the Judiaizers who wanted everybody circumcised would finish the job and cut their own testes and/or penises off.  Samson in Judges 14 accused the Philistines of having slept with his first wife with some pretty crude language.  That is just off the top of my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Paul sarcastically wished that the Judiaizers who wanted everybody circumcised would finish the job and cut their own testes and/or penises off.  Samson in Judges 14 accused the Philistines of having slept with his first wife with some pretty crude language.  That is just off the top of my head.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mueller</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3603</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is fit neither for the soil nor for the manure pile; it is thrown out. &quot;He who has ears to hear, let him hear.&quot;
Luke 14:34-35
Unfit for even the manure pile would be an apt description for some of the arrogant postmodern nonsense that&#039;s appearing on this post. What&#039;s sad is that you probably really do believe it and attempt to rationalize it as a young-old issue--ignoring the many fine Christians in their teens and 20s who *do* believe that holiness and purity are more than just outdated slogans trying to keep y&#039;all from turning your local church into Comedy Central. So tell me, Bible scholars....in Jesus&#039; sermons, in Paul&#039;s sermons, in Stephen&#039;s sermons, in Peter&#039;s sermons....in any biblical sermons, for that matter....do you see obscenities, profanities, double entendres....or for that matter, any jokes at all, even clean ones?  Oh, wait, that&#039;s right...Jesus, Stephen, Paul, Peter...those guys are all from the &quot;older generation.&#039;&#039; Better ignore them. Back to the manure pile. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is fit neither for the soil nor for the manure pile; it is thrown out. &#8220;He who has ears to hear, let him hear.&#8221;<br />
Luke 14:34-35<br />
Unfit for even the manure pile would be an apt description for some of the arrogant postmodern nonsense that&#8217;s appearing on this post. What&#8217;s sad is that you probably really do believe it and attempt to rationalize it as a young-old issue&#8211;ignoring the many fine Christians in their teens and 20s who *do* believe that holiness and purity are more than just outdated slogans trying to keep y&#8217;all from turning your local church into Comedy Central. So tell me, Bible scholars&#8230;.in Jesus&#8217; sermons, in Paul&#8217;s sermons, in Stephen&#8217;s sermons, in Peter&#8217;s sermons&#8230;.in any biblical sermons, for that matter&#8230;.do you see obscenities, profanities, double entendres&#8230;.or for that matter, any jokes at all, even clean ones?  Oh, wait, that&#8217;s right&#8230;Jesus, Stephen, Paul, Peter&#8230;those guys are all from the &#8220;older generation.&#8221; Better ignore them. Back to the manure pile. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: volfan007</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3593</link>
		<dc:creator>volfan007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GF,

I have no problem whatsoever teaching what the Bible teaches about sexual things.  Like, with Lot and his daughters, Samson and Delilah, etc.   But, there&#039;s a huge difference in preaching what happened and in making jokes about sex and masturbation, or talking coarse and using vulgar jesting.  If you cant see the difference, then I dont know what else to say.

Also, are you saying that there are dirty jokes in the book of Judges?  Pray tell, what are they?  Can you share with me where to find those?  I have read the book of Judges straight thru at least 15 times in my lifetime, and I have studied it on numerous occasions.   Where are these dirty jokes?

Also, GF, when the Bible talks about Hell, it&#039;s not singing about how glad someone is about going there, nor with glorifying the rebellious attitude about living in sin that one has in order to go there...instead, it talks about how bad it is, and that it&#039;s a place of punishment.  The Bible is talking soberly about Hell.  And, pray tell, how in the Tennessee hills can Highway to Hell be worshipful? used in worship of God?  as it sings about how much it wants to live sinfully and go to Hell?

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GF,</p>
<p>I have no problem whatsoever teaching what the Bible teaches about sexual things.  Like, with Lot and his daughters, Samson and Delilah, etc.   But, there&#8217;s a huge difference in preaching what happened and in making jokes about sex and masturbation, or talking coarse and using vulgar jesting.  If you cant see the difference, then I dont know what else to say.</p>
<p>Also, are you saying that there are dirty jokes in the book of Judges?  Pray tell, what are they?  Can you share with me where to find those?  I have read the book of Judges straight thru at least 15 times in my lifetime, and I have studied it on numerous occasions.   Where are these dirty jokes?</p>
<p>Also, GF, when the Bible talks about Hell, it&#8217;s not singing about how glad someone is about going there, nor with glorifying the rebellious attitude about living in sin that one has in order to go there&#8230;instead, it talks about how bad it is, and that it&#8217;s a place of punishment.  The Bible is talking soberly about Hell.  And, pray tell, how in the Tennessee hills can Highway to Hell be worshipful? used in worship of God?  as it sings about how much it wants to live sinfully and go to Hell?</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: volfan007</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/potty-mouthed-pastors/#comment-3592</link>
		<dc:creator>volfan007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A joke about masturbation from the pulpit like the one that Driscoll told was bad taste,  showed a real lack of wisdom on his part, and was too vulgar...especially in a crowd where women were attending.  And, were their children in attendance as well?  I dont know.  If they were, then it went way across the line.

I really cant understand anyone defending that nasty joke told from the pulpit.  

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A joke about masturbation from the pulpit like the one that Driscoll told was bad taste,  showed a real lack of wisdom on his part, and was too vulgar&#8230;especially in a crowd where women were attending.  And, were their children in attendance as well?  I dont know.  If they were, then it went way across the line.</p>
<p>I really cant understand anyone defending that nasty joke told from the pulpit.  </p>
<p>David</p>
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