Comments on: Southern Baptists Will Be Considered “Haters”

By: Debbie Kaufman

Debbie Kaufman — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:03:56 +0000

Joe: As I explain further in my comment to you(where you made the same libelous comment) I did not vote for Obama and I am very pro-life. I've told you this numerous times. It is amazing to me the lies that occur among Christians in order to discredit. I'm very open and honest about my life. .-= Debbie Kaufman´s last blog ..Unconditional Love For Those Without Christ =-.

By: Joe Blackmon

Joe Blackmon — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:33:55 +0000

I also find it telling that folks that are so "fired up" about getting this Hate Crimes legislation passed voted the most pro-abortion president in US history knowing full well what he was GOING to do on abortion and that there was a good possiblity that he would put at least two Supreme Court justices on the bench. I guess their righteous indignation doesn't get nearly as intense about dissecting babies inside their mother's womb and pulling them out a piece at a time or throwing a baby that has survived an abortion in the garbage. .-= Joe Blackmon´s last blog ..Honest Scrap?? =-.

By: Dr. James Willingham

Dr. James Willingham — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:47:55 +0000

Yup! The real aim of Abortion is population control, and then to change the USA and the whole world. Hidden agendas are the problem in all of these bills of extreme legislation. Guess, I'll close up shop for a while on this issue...until they come to prosecute me. .-= Dr. James Willingham´s last blog ..The Climax of the Reformation =-.

By: Joe Blackmon

Joe Blackmon — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:13:18 +0000

True dat. .-= Joe Blackmon´s last blog ..Honest Scrap?? =-.

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:11:56 +0000

By the way . . . (and then I’ll shut up), arguments similar to Debbie’s were used to assist in laws regarding “protecting those seeking abortion.” As we have learned, that was also a ruse and ploy by radical pro-abortion groups. Same arguments: different sin. Christians who speak out boldly against the “sin-of-the-week” in society will always be labeled “haters.” It is the classic: “kill the messenger and ignore the message” model.

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:08:42 +0000

I have no axe to grind with Debbie or anyone else. I certainly am not a “homophobe,” though I’ve been accused of such on occasion. I was holding the hands of gays dying of AIDS before the general public even knew what the disease was. My problem with the “hate crimes” legislation is that it is simply a ruse, or ploy. If it had anything to do with the argument Debbie makes that we should love and minister to homosexuals, or that we should stand up for any class or citizen being discriminated against — then, I’d be carrying the banner for the bill. But, the hate crimes bill is simply a major step forward to push the radical homosexual agenda. As the Arabian Proverb states: “When the camel’s nose is in the tent, it won’t be long before he is in bed with you.” I can readily support Debbie’s agenda of love, but reject her understanding of the “Hate Crimes Legislation.”

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:59:44 +0000

QUOTE: folks like me have a better handle of people outside the church than any ministe END QUOTE

Wow! What a broad brush. You obviously have a very low opinion of ministers — and an equally low understanding of them. It is easy to sling mud but hard to stay clean doing it. Most ministers I know have dealt with this issue at a level you probably could not even imagine. Again, statements like the one above indicate to me that you are too emotionally vested in your argument to really be objective.

By: Dr. James Willingham

Dr. James Willingham — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:42:17 +0000

To all and sundry: I do not go along with using a billy club in a disagreement. Debbie might be wrong, and I believe she is, but she has a right to her opinion and the right to present that opinion with what justifications she thinks proper. The task of those who disagree with her is to present evidence to the contrary, evidence that counters her understanding of the situation. She might or might not respond to the evidence (in this case she has not – in my opinion), but that does no matter or diminish her right to present her view. Such is a Baptist and Biblical doctrine called liberty of conscience. My case as to examples of homosexuals who do to others what others do to them (murder) is not buttressed with cases like she cited for her view. And the truth of some of her cases must be recognized as acceptable while some of her cases are questionable. On the other hand, she does not at all address the cases cited regarding Canada and Sweden, cases that bear directly upon her own commitment to Christ and to the view that homosexuality is a sin, because she can be subject to legal repercussions just as any of us would be with the passage of this hate crime law, if some one wants to argue that the Bible promotes hate crimes by its condemnation of homosexuality. But then the Bible also condemns fornication, adultery, and other sins, things generally regard as socially, familially, and personally destructive.
.-= Dr. James Willingham´s last blog ..The Climax of the Reformation =-.

By: Joe Blackmon

Joe Blackmon — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:59:11 +0000

Of course, I speak only for myself and no one else in the comment stream, but anyone that is for this law and calls themselves a Christian should be ashamed. .-= Joe Blackmon´s last blog ..Here Come the Thought Police!! =-.

By: Stan McCullars

Stan McCullars — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:57:37 +0000

As I was saying. .-= Stan McCullars´s last blog ..Give fat people a break! Seriously. =-.