Comments on: We’ve Had Our Prophets http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/ Southern Baptist News & Opinion Wed, 23 May 2012 03:39:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dr. James Willingham http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-7201 Dr. James Willingham Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:02:54 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-7201 The SBC had its prophets back in the 1800s. J.P. Boyce did not believe the south should secede, while John A. Broadus was a secessionist. Boyce thought there would be a war, and the South would lose it due to the way that Southerners had treated the Black family. In the records of the FBC of Charleston where he grew up, there was the case of a Black woman whose husband was sold off. She eventually took up living with another man. The church Excommunicated her. Some time later she applied to be readmitted, but the church refused to accept her with her marriage arrangements. She argued, "My husband has been sold off. I will never see him again. What can I do." The church had no answer to her problem, but they would not accept her back. There are other cases, worse still, where children were sold off, parents were sold off, were even ministers abused family members who objected rather strenuously to having a baby sold out of their arms. Things of this nature was very likely what Boyce had in mind. Southern Baptists might well owe that man a lot, for it is said he carried Southern financially at a time with the Convention did not have the money to support it. Boyce was independently wealthy, having investments outside of the South during the war. He once expressed the wish that he could help a ministerial student with his theology like he could help in something else. Wonder what he would say, if he could see the situation today. Recently I wrote an article on the theology of the Great Awakenings and the origins of missions among Baptists, but I do not think any will publish it due to the findings. God willing, one day I will publish it. My hope is that it will serve to provide one of the chief elements in another awakening, namely, the theology of such, the other two elements being the Presence and the humility. David spoke in his Psalm in I Chronicles 16:15 of God being faithful to His word for a thousand (1,000) generations. Allowing 20 yrs. per generation, that could imply the possibility of 20,000 years. for some years now I have been praying not only for a Third Great Awakening, but for one that would win the whole earth in one generation and then for a 1,000 more generations after that. Could it be that man might go to the stars (if he has not already gone), and so we might have a literal fulfilment of the gathering of the elect from one end of the heavens to the other? The SBC had its prophets back in the 1800s. J.P. Boyce did not believe the south should secede, while John A. Broadus was a secessionist. Boyce thought there would be a war, and the South would lose it due to the way that Southerners had treated the Black family. In the records of the FBC of Charleston where he grew up, there was the case of a Black woman whose husband was sold off. She eventually took up living with another man. The church Excommunicated her. Some time later she applied to be readmitted, but the church refused to accept her with her marriage arrangements. She argued, “My husband has been sold off. I will never see him again. What can I do.” The church had no answer to her problem, but they would not accept her back. There are other cases, worse still, where children were sold off, parents were sold off, were even ministers abused family members who objected rather strenuously to having a baby sold out of their arms. Things of this nature was very likely what Boyce had in mind. Southern Baptists might well owe that man a lot, for it is said he carried Southern financially at a time with the Convention did not have the money to support it. Boyce was independently wealthy, having investments outside of the South during the war. He once expressed the wish that he could help a ministerial student with his theology like he could help in something else. Wonder what he would say, if he could see the situation today. Recently I wrote an article on the theology of the Great Awakenings and the origins of missions among Baptists, but I do not think any will publish it due to the findings. God willing, one day I will publish it. My hope is that it will serve to provide one of the chief elements in another awakening, namely, the theology of such, the other two elements being the Presence and the humility. David spoke in his Psalm in I Chronicles 16:15 of God being faithful to His word for a thousand (1,000) generations. Allowing 20 yrs. per generation, that could imply the possibility of 20,000 years. for some years now I have been praying not only for a Third Great Awakening, but for one that would win the whole earth in one generation and then for a 1,000 more generations after that. Could it be that man might go to the stars (if he has not already gone), and so we might have a literal fulfilment of the gathering of the elect from one end of the heavens to the other?

]]> By: Dr. Paul Foltz http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-2127 Dr. Paul Foltz Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:11:05 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-2127 Yes, we have had our prophets, and like Israel of old have rejected them by not following their teaching. Yes, we have had our prophets, and like Israel of old have rejected them by not following their teaching.

]]> By: Tony Kummer http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-2125 Tony Kummer Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:11:41 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-2125 @David: Thanks for the comments. I just found a Criswell video I'll post later tonight. @David: Thanks for the comments. I just found a Criswell video I’ll post later tonight.

]]> By: Dr. Paul Foltz http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-2122 Dr. Paul Foltz Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:29:10 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-2122 Old SBC Prophets how about, Broadus, Daag, Melton, and Robertson and Machen/ Old SBC Prophets how about, Broadus, Daag, Melton, and Robertson and
Machen/

]]> By: Sallie http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-2115 Sallie Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:27:15 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-2115 My husband (while in school with the Marine Corps) attended church where Adrian Rogers pastored in Tennessee . He loved absolutely every sermon he ever heard Pastor Rogers preach! I just heard this quote from him the other day and had made a mental note to look it up. It's so good to see someone else using the same quote! Have a blessed evening! Sallie My husband (while in school with the Marine Corps) attended church where Adrian Rogers pastored in Tennessee . He loved absolutely every sermon he ever heard Pastor Rogers preach! I just heard this quote from him the other day and had made a mental note to look it up. It’s so good to see someone else using the same quote!

Have a blessed evening!
Sallie

]]> By: David R. Brumbelow http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-2104 David R. Brumbelow Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:18:46 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-2104 Tony, Interesting post. You young guys go ahead listening and learning from these young preachers and professors. But don’t forget the ones who have gone before. They also deserve a hearing. Some of you may be surprised at how much you get from them. Preachers like Vance Havner, R. G. Lee, W. A. Criswell (wacriswell.org), Herschel Hobbs, Jerry Vines, Paige Patterson, Josh McDowell, and, of course, the ones you refer to, Adrian Rogers and Billy Graham. And even a few non-Southern Baptists like Warren Wiersbe, J. Vernon McGee, H. A. Ironside, R. L. Sumner, John R. Rice, John Phillips, John MacArthur, Charles Spurgeon, D. L. Moody. You won’t agree with everything they say, but then, you don’t agree with everything your professors say either :-). David R. Brumbelow Tony,
Interesting post. You young guys go ahead listening and learning from these young preachers and professors. But don’t forget the ones who have gone before. They also deserve a hearing.

Some of you may be surprised at how much you get from them.

Preachers like Vance Havner, R. G. Lee, W. A. Criswell (wacriswell.org), Herschel Hobbs, Jerry Vines, Paige Patterson, Josh McDowell, and, of course, the ones you refer to, Adrian Rogers and Billy Graham.

And even a few non-Southern Baptists like Warren Wiersbe, J. Vernon McGee, H. A. Ironside, R. L. Sumner, John R. Rice, John Phillips, John MacArthur, Charles Spurgeon, D. L. Moody.

You won’t agree with everything they say, but then, you don’t agree with everything your professors say either :-) .
David R. Brumbelow

]]> By: Todd Burus http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-2103 Todd Burus Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:52:43 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-2103 Wooo, Lexington! That's my hometown! (Sorry, don't get a chance to shout out old Lex-Vegas very often.) <abbr><em><abbr><em>Todd Buruss last blog post..<a href="http://toddongod.com/2009/03/17/not-meant-to-suffer-alone-experiencing-community-with-twloha-and-what-it-means-to-the-church/" rel="nofollow">Not Meant to Suffer Alone- Experiencing Community with TWLOHA and What it Means to the Church</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Wooo, Lexington! That’s my hometown! (Sorry, don’t get a chance to shout out old Lex-Vegas very often.)

Todd Buruss last blog post..Not Meant to Suffer Alone- Experiencing Community with TWLOHA and What it Means to the Church

]]> By: Tony Kummer http://sbcvoices.com/weve-had-our-prophets/#comment-2102 Tony Kummer Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:56:34 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=1171#comment-2102 I just noticed this video was from Lexington KY - Southern Baptist territory too! I just noticed this video was from Lexington KY – Southern Baptist territory too!

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