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		<title>By: Dr. James Willingham</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is-lottie-moon-our-standard/#comment-8049</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. James Willingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction to last line, &quot;what he claims to beluieve with blasphemy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction to last line, &#8220;what he claims to beluieve with blasphemy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. James Willingham</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is-lottie-moon-our-standard/#comment-8048</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. James Willingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gets me that of the Bible believers, one, who claims to believe it and visits his wrath upon the heads of those with whom he disagrees,  should use his space for blasphemy.  The Lord surely knew what He was doing , when He reserved his sternest denunciations for the Bible believing Pharisees, the whited-sepulchers. After all, they were quite as active in his crucifixion as were the unbelieving Sadducees  My heart is revulsed by the use of a vulgar spelling for the word, &quot;God.&quot;  It is time that the editors closed this thread down.  If civil tones cannot be used in blogging, then by all means let us use none.  My aim is to win the moderates to the truth of Holy Scripture, but how can any on win when an advocate actually contradicts wath clms to believe by blasphemy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets me that of the Bible believers, one, who claims to believe it and visits his wrath upon the heads of those with whom he disagrees,  should use his space for blasphemy.  The Lord surely knew what He was doing , when He reserved his sternest denunciations for the Bible believing Pharisees, the whited-sepulchers. After all, they were quite as active in his crucifixion as were the unbelieving Sadducees  My heart is revulsed by the use of a vulgar spelling for the word, &#8220;God.&#8221;  It is time that the editors closed this thread down.  If civil tones cannot be used in blogging, then by all means let us use none.  My aim is to win the moderates to the truth of Holy Scripture, but how can any on win when an advocate actually contradicts wath clms to believe by blasphemy?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blackmon</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is-lottie-moon-our-standard/#comment-8046</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the SBC was structured so that anyone at the WMU who would not sign the BFM 2k would be given an opportunity to go work for the CBF.  I&#039;d love that to happen actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the SBC was structured so that anyone at the WMU who would not sign the BFM 2k would be given an opportunity to go work for the CBF.  I&#8217;d love that to happen actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blackmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who&#039;s life got &quot;destroyed&quot; in the CR got way better than they deserved.  Name one, Tom, one person who was destroyed in the CR who:

*affirmed the miracles of Jesus and the virgin birth.
*affirmed the inerrancy of scripture (as expressed in the Chicago Statement)
*affirmed the verbal, plenary inspriation of scripture.
*affirmed homosexuality as being a sin without any exceptions whatsoever.
*affirmed the historicity of Genesis 1-11.  Heck, I&#039;d even take an Old Earther who said that Adam and Eve were the first humans, they were created, and the fall happened as it is recorded.

(crickets chirping)

Can&#039;t name one, Tom?  Yeah, thought so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who&#8217;s life got &#8220;destroyed&#8221; in the CR got way better than they deserved.  Name one, Tom, one person who was destroyed in the CR who:</p>
<p>*affirmed the miracles of Jesus and the virgin birth.<br />
*affirmed the inerrancy of scripture (as expressed in the Chicago Statement)<br />
*affirmed the verbal, plenary inspriation of scripture.<br />
*affirmed homosexuality as being a sin without any exceptions whatsoever.<br />
*affirmed the historicity of Genesis 1-11.  Heck, I&#8217;d even take an Old Earther who said that Adam and Eve were the first humans, they were created, and the fall happened as it is recorded.</p>
<p>(crickets chirping)</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t name one, Tom?  Yeah, thought so.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blackmon</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is-lottie-moon-our-standard/#comment-8044</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thankful that the SBC where professors could deny the miracles of Jesus is gone.  I am thankful the SBC where those who said homosexuality is not a sin were accepted and given a voice is gone.  I&#039;m glad the SBC where those who held that the Bible CONTAINED the word of God rather than it IS the word of God is gone.  I&#039;m glad the SBC where a seminary professor can publish an article saying that the New Testament writers who applied the Messianic Psalms to Christ had no idea what they were talking about (i.e. Peter was wrong in Acts 2) is gone.

It&#039;s just too bad the CR didn&#039;t go far enough.  Anyone who got hurt, lost a job, had to move, whatever, in the CR got WAY better than they deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thankful that the SBC where professors could deny the miracles of Jesus is gone.  I am thankful the SBC where those who said homosexuality is not a sin were accepted and given a voice is gone.  I&#8217;m glad the SBC where those who held that the Bible CONTAINED the word of God rather than it IS the word of God is gone.  I&#8217;m glad the SBC where a seminary professor can publish an article saying that the New Testament writers who applied the Messianic Psalms to Christ had no idea what they were talking about (i.e. Peter was wrong in Acts 2) is gone.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too bad the CR didn&#8217;t go far enough.  Anyone who got hurt, lost a job, had to move, whatever, in the CR got WAY better than they deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blackmon</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is-lottie-moon-our-standard/#comment-8043</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

I bet with Rev. John it has less to do with a lack of understanding but a willful rejection of clear scriptural truth because it&#039;s easier to make up his own guidlines rather than live by what God has decreed.  Hence the reason the phrase &quot;Jesus Christ is the standard for interpreting scripture&quot; had to be updated in the BFM 2000 because it allowed mainstreamers/moderates to say &quot;Oh, well, Paul could&#039;t have meant that because Jesus was much too loving to EVER have meant that.&quot;

Poppycock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I bet with Rev. John it has less to do with a lack of understanding but a willful rejection of clear scriptural truth because it&#8217;s easier to make up his own guidlines rather than live by what God has decreed.  Hence the reason the phrase &#8220;Jesus Christ is the standard for interpreting scripture&#8221; had to be updated in the BFM 2000 because it allowed mainstreamers/moderates to say &#8220;Oh, well, Paul could&#8217;t have meant that because Jesus was much too loving to EVER have meant that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Poppycock.</p>
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		<title>By: volfan007</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary announcing the good news of the resurrection is not preaching and teaching.  It&#039;s just announcing something.  When my momma used to holler out the back door for me to come in and eat lunch, that wasnt preaching and teaching, either.  So, it was perfectly fine for Mary to announce such a great moment.  Whoever said that it wasnt okay?  Strawman and very weak understanding of things in this comment.

There&#039;s absolutely nothing wrong with women sharing the Gospel; or in OT times for them to prophesy....tell the nation what God told them to tell the nation; nothing wrong with Deborah being a Judge over Israel, due to the fact that there was no man man-enough to do it at that time...it was a reluctant thing...besides we&#039;re talking about OT Israel here, and not the NT Church....and besides again, we&#039;re talking about her being a Judge, not a Rabbi, not a Priest.  So, once again, very bad understanding of the Bible being displayed.

Lottie Moon could share the Gospel with every man on this planet, and that still wouldn&#039;t have been teaching over men in a group type setting....like in a CHURCH. And, when she did teach men, she did it reluctantly....reluctantly....due to no men being around who could do it.  I believe she looked upon her ministry as being to the women and children in China.  

A lack of understanding the Bible can lead people to all kinds of confusing ideas, and can cause them to not see the truth of the Scripture.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary announcing the good news of the resurrection is not preaching and teaching.  It&#8217;s just announcing something.  When my momma used to holler out the back door for me to come in and eat lunch, that wasnt preaching and teaching, either.  So, it was perfectly fine for Mary to announce such a great moment.  Whoever said that it wasnt okay?  Strawman and very weak understanding of things in this comment.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with women sharing the Gospel; or in OT times for them to prophesy&#8230;.tell the nation what God told them to tell the nation; nothing wrong with Deborah being a Judge over Israel, due to the fact that there was no man man-enough to do it at that time&#8230;it was a reluctant thing&#8230;besides we&#8217;re talking about OT Israel here, and not the NT Church&#8230;.and besides again, we&#8217;re talking about her being a Judge, not a Rabbi, not a Priest.  So, once again, very bad understanding of the Bible being displayed.</p>
<p>Lottie Moon could share the Gospel with every man on this planet, and that still wouldn&#8217;t have been teaching over men in a group type setting&#8230;.like in a CHURCH. And, when she did teach men, she did it reluctantly&#8230;.reluctantly&#8230;.due to no men being around who could do it.  I believe she looked upon her ministry as being to the women and children in China.  </p>
<p>A lack of understanding the Bible can lead people to all kinds of confusing ideas, and can cause them to not see the truth of the Scripture.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe:

   DAve and others here have asked us to move on and not get away from things germane to the topic.
    
We are drifting here.  I don&#039;t know what your status is on this board among your funamentalist brethren but maybe you could open a topic about the CR, the GCR and the CR&#039;s Ethical History and what not.
   Until then for the time being not much use in engaging a discussion with a fellow who wouldn&#039;t know the BX 6400&#039;s from a Hole in the Ground.
   Have a Blessed Day and do google the insidehighered piece on Erskine.  World of Inerrancy talk and enlightenment discussion there and what happens when a faith community leaves the reservation for the Promised Land of Karl Rove and Richard Land.
   For an incremental starter there, you may want to see Adrian Rogers son David at SBCimpact.net on the Idolatry of Politics.
    But remember, that is just the starter.  From there world of exploration waiting just for you in the BX 6400&#039;s.
    Maybe go straight for Barry Hankins Uneasy in Babylon and look up Gushee and Carey Newman in the Index and their experience with Al Mohler in 94 at SBTS, a hire by Mohler after Honeycutt if that gives you a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe:</p>
<p>   DAve and others here have asked us to move on and not get away from things germane to the topic.</p>
<p>We are drifting here.  I don&#8217;t know what your status is on this board among your funamentalist brethren but maybe you could open a topic about the CR, the GCR and the CR&#8217;s Ethical History and what not.<br />
   Until then for the time being not much use in engaging a discussion with a fellow who wouldn&#8217;t know the BX 6400&#8242;s from a Hole in the Ground.<br />
   Have a Blessed Day and do google the insidehighered piece on Erskine.  World of Inerrancy talk and enlightenment discussion there and what happens when a faith community leaves the reservation for the Promised Land of Karl Rove and Richard Land.<br />
   For an incremental starter there, you may want to see Adrian Rogers son David at SBCimpact.net on the Idolatry of Politics.<br />
    But remember, that is just the starter.  From there world of exploration waiting just for you in the BX 6400&#8242;s.<br />
    Maybe go straight for Barry Hankins Uneasy in Babylon and look up Gushee and Carey Newman in the Index and their experience with Al Mohler in 94 at SBTS, a hire by Mohler after Honeycutt if that gives you a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blackmon</title>
		<link>http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is-lottie-moon-our-standard/#comment-8038</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, how are you, Don Quixote, and your buddies coming with your Mainstream Resurrgence [(c) 2008 Joe Blackmon]?  Y&#039;all ready to use the dust storm of the GCR to try and &quot;take back the convention, by gawd&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, how are you, Don Quixote, and your buddies coming with your Mainstream Resurrgence [(c) 2008 Joe Blackmon]?  Y&#8217;all ready to use the dust storm of the GCR to try and &#8220;take back the convention, by gawd&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blackmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that the college that fired some trustee&#039;s because they didn&#039;t hold to the doctrine of inerrancy the way all Christians do and should?  If so, I&#039;d love to shake the hands of those who made that decisions to stand for true Christian principals.

And no, what Joe Blackmon believes really doesn&#039;t matter--it&#039;s what the Bible says. And since it says something different than what N.T. Wright says, he&#039;s the one with the problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that the college that fired some trustee&#8217;s because they didn&#8217;t hold to the doctrine of inerrancy the way all Christians do and should?  If so, I&#8217;d love to shake the hands of those who made that decisions to stand for true Christian principals.</p>
<p>And no, what Joe Blackmon believes really doesn&#8217;t matter&#8211;it&#8217;s what the Bible says. And since it says something different than what N.T. Wright says, he&#8217;s the one with the problems.</p>
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