Comments on: Marketing The Cooperative Program http://sbcvoices.com/xcom-marketing/ Southern Baptist News & Opinion Wed, 23 May 2012 14:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tony Kummer http://sbcvoices.com/xcom-marketing/#comment-1122 Tony Kummer Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:47:41 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=568#comment-1122 @ James: Please break your comments into shorter paragraphs. @ James: Please break your comments into shorter paragraphs.

]]> By: Dr. James Willingham http://sbcvoices.com/xcom-marketing/#comment-1120 Dr. James Willingham Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:32:04 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=568#comment-1120 Sirs: The cp and all of the churches, assns., state conventions, mission groups that support it, has provided for the greatest bible-believing mission force in history. True! It has its problems. Where ever humans are, sinners are, even born-again believers still sin, so it follows there will be trials, disappointments, defeats. But, there are those who would like to see the cp fail in order to get that great mission force done it. The great structure of the SBC with all of its diversities, divisions, and tare hairs is still necessary for us to preserve some presence of a protestant type of Christianity on the public scene in this nation. I have often thought it would be good for it to break upt, but then I realize wat a folly that would be. There would be a great vacuum in the public arena left by our free departure, and that vacuum would be filled immediately by the group that already has the majority on the supreme court. And while they today seem to favor republican democracy, Southern Baptists definitely need to be around to ensure that every one sticks to it as much as possible. The support of those missionaries must be the number one priority after the faithful preaching of the Gospel. Both the moderates and the conservatives need to look at mediation processes to learn to work together; ther is truth to some degree on both sides. If they fail, the whole world might well hang separately...as certainly the moderates and conservatives shall unless one or both sell out to post modern forces. We do have the basis in our background for dealing with such problems in the success of Regular Baptists in getting the great mission program going and of the success of Regular and Separate Baptists in uniting. If we had had some sharper thinkers, we might have avoided the primitive-missionary split, the landmark problems, and even the modernist-fundamentalist controversy. Mediation and understanding of how theological and ideological processes really work need to be addressed and means instituted to obviate and even resolve differences for a better situation. John Leland said he felt like he had been the gainer by making a few compromises with the Regulars (he was a Separate Baptist). WE NEED TEAMS OF PEOPLE TRAINED TO TAKE US THROUGH A PROCESS THAT BRINGS ABOUT RECONCILIATION AND BRINGS THE INDIVIDUAL TO FEEL THAT HE IS A GAINER BY THE PROCESS. THE RECONCILIATION PROCESS WILL NOT BE EASIER - IN SOME CASES IT WILL EVEN BE PAINFUL (LIKE SURGERY) -, BUT IN THE LONG RUN THE HEALING PROCESS WILL BRING THE HEALTH, STRENGTH, AND SATISFACTION OF POSSIBILITIES FOLLOWED BY REALITIES. Sirs: The cp and all of the churches, assns., state conventions, mission groups that support it, has provided for the greatest bible-believing mission force in history. True! It has its problems. Where ever humans are, sinners are, even born-again believers still sin, so it follows there will be trials, disappointments, defeats. But, there are those who would like to see the cp fail in order to get that great mission force done it. The great structure of the SBC with all of its diversities, divisions, and tare hairs is still necessary for us to preserve some presence of a protestant type of Christianity on the public scene in this nation. I have often thought it would be good for it to break upt, but then I realize wat a folly that would be. There would be a great vacuum in the public arena left by our free departure, and that vacuum would be filled immediately by the group that already has the majority on the supreme court. And while they today seem to favor republican democracy, Southern Baptists definitely need to be around to ensure that every one sticks to it as much as possible. The support of those missionaries must be the number one priority after the faithful preaching of the Gospel. Both the moderates and the conservatives need to look at mediation processes to learn to work together; ther is truth to some degree on both sides. If they fail, the whole world might well hang separately…as certainly the moderates and conservatives shall unless one or both sell out to post modern forces. We do have the basis in our background for dealing with such problems in the success of Regular Baptists in getting the great mission program going and of the success of Regular and Separate Baptists in uniting. If we had had some sharper thinkers, we might have avoided the primitive-missionary split, the landmark problems, and even the modernist-fundamentalist controversy. Mediation and understanding of how theological and ideological processes really work need to be addressed and means instituted to obviate and even resolve differences for a better situation. John Leland said he felt like he had been the gainer by making a few compromises with the Regulars (he was a Separate Baptist). WE NEED TEAMS OF PEOPLE TRAINED TO TAKE US THROUGH A PROCESS THAT BRINGS ABOUT RECONCILIATION AND BRINGS THE INDIVIDUAL TO FEEL THAT HE IS A GAINER BY THE PROCESS. THE RECONCILIATION PROCESS WILL NOT BE EASIER – IN SOME CASES IT WILL EVEN BE PAINFUL (LIKE SURGERY) -, BUT IN THE LONG RUN THE HEALING PROCESS WILL BRING THE HEALTH, STRENGTH, AND SATISFACTION OF POSSIBILITIES FOLLOWED BY REALITIES.

]]> By: How Much CP Even Gets To The IMB? | Southern Baptist Blogs - SBC Voices http://sbcvoices.com/xcom-marketing/#comment-1107 How Much CP Even Gets To The IMB? | Southern Baptist Blogs - SBC Voices Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:09:02 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=568#comment-1107 [...] missions causes. But the common misconception is that CP = missions. As I’ve said before, no amount of market research will fix it. People need to know the truth about where 83% of their money does not [...] [...] missions causes. But the common misconception is that CP = missions. As I’ve said before, no amount of market research will fix it. People need to know the truth about where 83% of their money does not [...]

]]> By: Joe Blackmon http://sbcvoices.com/xcom-marketing/#comment-921 Joe Blackmon Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:11:33 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=568#comment-921 Since I'm an auditor and a geek I was curious whether the SBC gets an external audit and if that includes the cooperative program. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Joe Blackmons last blog post..<a href="http://heargodspeak.blogspot.com/2008/12/holiday-post-mathew-27-8.html" rel="nofollow">Holiday Post: Mathew 2:7-8</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Since I’m an auditor and a geek I was curious whether the SBC gets an external audit and if that includes the cooperative program.

Joe Blackmons last blog post..Holiday Post: Mathew 2:7-8

]]> By: Jennifer S http://sbcvoices.com/xcom-marketing/#comment-915 Jennifer S Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:24:27 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=568#comment-915 Interesting... I have never taken a seminary course (where the CP was explained), but I know what the CP does. I read my state baptist newspaper on a semi-infrequent basis and I don't think it is complicated at all. The CP pools the resources of smaller churches so that their money can help send and train more missionaries. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Jennifer Ss last blog post..<a href="http://www.familymusings.com/2008/12/guest-review-two-for-one.html" rel="nofollow">Guest Review: Two for One</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Interesting… I have never taken a seminary course (where the CP was explained), but I know what the CP does. I read my state baptist newspaper on a semi-infrequent basis and I don’t think it is complicated at all. The CP pools the resources of smaller churches so that their money can help send and train more missionaries.

Jennifer Ss last blog post..Guest Review: Two for One

]]> By: Tony Kummer http://sbcvoices.com/xcom-marketing/#comment-903 Tony Kummer Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:49:37 +0000 http://sbcvoices.com/?p=568#comment-903 I updated the first paragraph of this post because I was unclear. Thanks for the reader feedback! I updated the first paragraph of this post because I was unclear. Thanks for the reader feedback!

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