Continuing my series of interviews with Southern Baptist leaders on immigration/refugee ministry/advocacy from a Biblical perspective, I next air Episode 4 of the When Heaven and Earth Collide podcast: an interview with Pastor Bryant Wright of Johnson Ferry Baptist Church in Marietta, Georgia . Wright is also the former president of the SBC. In this interview, we talk about how local churches can help refugees who come to America experience the love of Christ. Wright and Johnson Ferry Baptist were thrust into the middle of controversy last December when they agreed to follow through on their commitment to sponsor a Syrian refugee family, even though Georgia Governor Nathan Deal made moves to keep Syrian refugees out of Georgia after the Paris and San Bernadino attacks. Johnson Ferry has continued this ministry and Wright and others from the church have been to the Middle East many times to work with and assist refugees in the camps. Wright has said, “It’s a humanitarian disaster. It just makes sense to me to reach out with love and concern to them rather than withdrawing in fear.”
In this conversation, we talk about why a local church would engage in refugee ministry, the obstacles and challenges to this ministry, how the implications and call of the gospel is to motivate Christians to love sacrificially, and how fear is not to be the determining factor. Wright talks about how the preaching of the Word can and should shape a church to join in God’s mission and how we should not give in to fear.
“We are not naive about the dangers – we know they are there. But, that doesn’t change our calling to reach out to others with the love of Christ.”
Pastor Wright provides a good example for evangelical pastors seeking to lead their church to engage in gospel ministry to refugees and immigrants wherever they are. After the SBC passed a resolution in June encouraging all Southern Baptists to welcome refugees into their homes and churches as a demonstration of the gospel, the need for voices like Bryant Wright’s on this ministry opportunity before us is greater than ever.
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In the intro to the podcast, I talk about the Olympic Refugee Team that is made up of 10 refugees from around the world to represent and highlight the ongoing world refugee crisis. The story of Yusra Mardini, an 18 year old refugee from Syria, who is a swimmer, is incredible. She swam for 3.5 hours in the Mediterranean helping pull her boat full of 20 refugees after the engines failed to make it to the island of Lesbos. She is competing as a swimmer for the Refugee Team to help spread the message that one should keep hoping and working for a better future. What an inspiration. When we think about refugees, I hope that we will think about people made in God’s image whom God loves with unique gifts, talents, and abilities and incredible worth and value. I am praying for this team and the 65 million refugees around the world that they represent. Will you join me?
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For a further discussion on the global refugee crisis and the Biblical basis for refugee and immigrant ministry, you might also want to check out an interview that I did last week with Carmen LaBerge for her nationally syndicated Reconnect radio show. We had a great conversation about why and how Christians should welcome and minister to refugees and immigrants and why their burdens should be our burdens. There is also a lot of information about the refugee vetting process shared.
But first, make sure that you listen to the podcast interview with Bryant Wright (scroll down to the player in this post) and come back and discuss!
Good article. Wright’s church hosted a Syrian refugee at the height of the scare about terrorist refugees from Syria. I happened to talk to the Arabic-speaking person that the church enlisted to help the family get settled in Atlanta. One of the tasks was to fill the apartment with groceries. The Syrian family took their first trip to an American grocery store, a place where any food, any type, any season is available. The Syrians had never seen such abundance and were overwhelmed.
Yes, I have been tracking with them throughout this process. We were having meetings with leaders/pastors from the area, including a missions pastor from Johnson Ferry when all of this was happening. They have continued to do this work and continue to see God at work in blessing and welcoming people. It is good to see their leadership. Other churches are taking notice.
Alan: I listened to your interview with Dr Wright. During the interview there was a passing mention of what is evidently some place in the USA where the refugees are temporarily placed. The first time Dr. Wright mentioned the location it sounded like “car support”. Later on the place was mentioned again and the name sounded like “Carson”. Is there some refugee holding location in the USA [or maybe somewhere outside the USA operated by the UN] with a name sounding like “Carson” where the refugees pass through on their way to being place in communities in the USA?
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No. He was talking about Clarkston, Georgia, which is in the Northeast Atlanta area. It has been called the most diverse square mile in America and is a refugee town. I have been there several times meeting ministry leaders and pastors who see their town as a mission field. I have an interview coming up in a few weeks with a pastor there whose church has 7 ethnic congregations meeting in their building and they are doing great work ministering to the refugee community. I also have interviews coming with a couple of pastors and a ministry leader in the Bevo area of St. Louis where 60,000 Bosnians were resettled in the 1990s. These pastors have a lot to teach us about the new and emerging face of ministry in America.
But, as to your question, no, refugees are not sent to Clarkston before being sent elsewhere. They are sent there permanently and are then free to move wherever they want or can find work at a later date.
Alan, are you meeting with Oasis International in the Bevo area? Our church works extensively with them (one church member is on staff). Shockingly, my department in a Fortune 500 company did a small outreach program (clothing) with them as well.
Just talked with my friends at Oasis International. I heard you did talk to them over the SBC in St. Louis. Will look forward to the podcast!
Quick question; have you found that many of those Christians who “appear” to have a skeptical or hostile view of refugees actually do volunteer work for refugees? It’s been interesting to see some people I know spouting anti-refugee rhetoric on facebook or in political conversations, yet they have been involved in our mission trips to Oasis, fully understanding that they are ministering to a primarily Muslim audience.
Mike, I interviewed Oasis leadership as well as two local pastors doing work in the Bevo area. I’ll probably put them all together in a 2 part podcast during the same week and run it as a theme. Lots of great insight there from an area that resettled around 60,000 Bosnian Muslim refugees in the 1990s.
Most of those who are hostile to refugees and immigrants seem to have little interaction with them. If people are going on mission trips to refugee communities in the U.S. and remain hostile toward them, I would question what is happening on those trips and how they are personally processing what they have encountered after returning home. Also, one trip might not thoroughly change a heart, but it can help open eyes to what is happening and to what God can do.