I can’t remember the last time I watched one of those Hollywood or Nashville awards shows. They seem to have one every other week and I know about them because I have a few friends who breathlessly tweet about who sang what song and who won what award. I don’t care. I am hopelessly uncool and un-hip. If you offered me a million dollars I couldn’t name a song by U2 or Taylor Swift and I have no idea who won the Academy Award for anything last year – except that I know it was for a movie I didn’t watch – they always award the movie with the best liberal political message and ignore any movie I enjoy. So, I ignore the awards show and am culturally out of touch. Does that make me non-missional?
It is not just that I’m not interested in the movies and music that these award shows award but I find the self-congratulatory arrogance of the smug stars a little hard to take. These Hollywood actors and star singers seemed to be filled with an inflated sense of their own importance that leads them to opine on the liberal causes they champion. The comedians aren’t funny, the music is awful, I’ve never watched any of the movies or heard any of the songs, and the acceptance speeches make me want to throw something at the TV.
Get off my lawn, awards shows!
But this morning I watched a video by Meryl Streep from whatever awards show took place last night (Golden Globes?) that has raised the hackles of a lot of folks. Hollywood hates Donald Trump and that ought to shock no one. They view him as a cancer and see themselves as America’s surgeons. He hasn’t even been inaugurated yet and they are already prepping for surgery. Get used to it. The next 4 years are going to be an unrelenting stream of vitriol from Hollywood toward the Oval Office. Right wing sites are up in arms at her attacks.
Streep received some kind of lifetime achievement award and her speech oozed with arrogance and Hollywood self-adulation. Typical. It was everything that caused me to stop watching those shows. But there was something about her statement that stuck with me. Here is an excerpt of the transcript. I left out the “we are wonderful people who do wonderful things because we are so wonderful” parts about how great actors are. I’ve been home with the flu and that stuff doesn’t help. But she trained her guns on Trump – I’m guessing that was a common theme last night.
But there was one performance this year that stunned me. It sank its hooks in my heart, not because it was good, it was — there’s nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It made its intended audience laugh and show their teeth.
It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter, someone he outranked in privilege and power and the capacity to fight back. It, it kind of broke my heart when I saw it and I still can’t get it out my head because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life. And this instinct to humiliate when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.
Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose. OK, go on with that thing. OK, this brings me to the press. We need the principled press to hold power to account, to call them on the carpet for every outrage.
That’s why our founders enshrined the press and its freedoms in our constitution. So I only ask the famously well-heeled Hollywood foreign press and all of us in our community to join me in supporting the Committee to Protect Journalists, ’cause we’re going to need them going forward and they’ll need us to safeguard the truth.
Boiling away all her Hollywood liberalism, her inflated self-importance, and her sappy rhetoric, the simple fact is that I agree in principle with her some of her concerns.
1. My biggest concern with Donald Trump is the way he treats people – He tends to bully, insult, threaten, and demean.
Perhaps Trump is not that big of a departure from the Beltway norm, except that he does it openly and without finesse. Where Obama has insulted and demeaned with diplomatic precision, Trump uses Twitter to nuke those who upset him. I share Ms. Streep’s concerns about the behavior and demeanor of the president.
- I was horrified when he relentlessly attacked Megyn Kelly, Carly Fiorina (too ugly to be president) and other women.
- I was disgusted at his recorded comments in which he bragged about sexually assaulting women. If it was just bragging, it was disgusting. If the words were true (as many women claimed), he should be prosecuted.
- His comments about Mexicans and Muslims were nauseating.
- I was appalled when he ridiculed a handicapped reporter, mocking his speech patterns – the incident Streep mentioned.
- I was saddened by insults he leveled against good men in the GOP primary.
- I was unhappy with so many aspects of his conversation, demeanor, behavior, morality, and lack of common human decency.
What Meryl Streep said about him is grounded in truth. If you weren’t bothered by the actions of Donald Trump it ought to bother you a bit.
But America has spoken and said that Donald Trump, with all his baIggage, was less onerous than Hillary Clinton with all of hers. I am willing to give Trump a chance. So far I’ve liked some of what he’s done and been bothered by some of it. Appointing Steve Bannon was among the low points. If he nominates well for SCOTUS I will rejoice. I’m hoping that Donald Trump will change my views about him. I cannot excuse his boorish behavior or ignore the awful, immoral, sinful things he has done, but he is now president and I am hoping for good things.
2. Of course, what Streep and the Coastal Elites are missing is the “why” of the Trump presidency.
She made a reference in her speech that intimated, as many have, that those who voted Trump did so because they joined him in disrespecting women and disdaining other cultures – that they loved everything he said. They don’t get it.
There is an interesting fact I’ve noticed. Here at SBC Voices, even the most vocal Trump supporters claim they aren’t actually Trump supporters! Most Trump voters didn’t really want to vote FOR Trump but to vote AGAINST Hillary, and, in fact, the culture that Hollywood seeks to create.
In fact, Ms. Streep, it is not so much that Middle America supported Trump but that they did not want Hillary and folks like you running the show. You and your values are out of touch. Until you understand that you won’t understand America. The relentless bashing of Trump only tends to harden opinions and make people feel more out of touch with the Coastal Elites.
3. What she said about the press ought to be true.
Streep admonished the press to be vigilant in safeguarding the American democracy and the public.
We need the principled press to hold power to account, to call them on the carpet for every outrage.
That’s why our founders enshrined the press and its freedoms in our constitution. So I only ask the famously well-heeled Hollywood foreign press and all of us in our community to join me in supporting the Committee to Protect Journalists, ’cause we’re going to need them going forward and they’ll need us to safeguard the truth.
She is 100% correct. The problem, of course, is that her statement assumes a “principled” press – something I’m not sure exists in America today. And what she is looking for is not a press that holds the president accountable, but one that unleashes a barrage of harassment against him. She is not looking to give Trump a fair chance to succeed. She wants the press to assist her in destroying him.
We have watched the last 8 years as a fawning press lionized Obama (except for Fox News and other internet sources) and never held him accountable. We watched the press throw off any pretense of impartiality and use their papers and networks to advance the “I’m with Her” campaign. A “principled press” would be wonderful and it ought to hold Donald Trump accountable.
4. The real question: Are we going to be a principled church?
Here is my premise: there is no greater temptation than power and money.
When the Apostles walked to the Temple, they declared that they had no silver or gold, but they did have the power of God to transform a man’s life. It seems we’ve reversed that today and often seem more concerned about our access to the halls of power and influence than about our alignment with the power of God.
Are we, the American Church, are going to be a “principled church?”
Donald Trump’s history demonstrates the likelihood that he will do two things in the days ahead.
- He will do things that Christians ought to applaud.
- He will do things that Christians ought to condemn.
He has made some good promises and some good appointments. There will likely be more to come. If you are a person who hates Trump to the point that every single thing he does is seen as evil, you are probably looking through eyes of hate, not reason. Christians, if he makes a good appointment to the Supreme Court, rejoice. His appointment of conservative and pro-life men and women ought to be applauded. Everyone here knows that I am not a Trumpeter, but when he makes good appointments and good laws and does good things, say so. Be principled. Principled means “guided by principle.”
On the other hand, Trump is going to behave badly. He is going to say things that are embarrassing and do things that are cringe-worthy. That is who he is. He is pro-gay, pro-gay marriage, pro “bathroom freedom,” and he does not stand for biblical “family values.”
- Are we going to be so concerned about our access to power that we are afraid to speak when Trump is wrong?
- Are we going to be partisan or principled?
- Are we going to care more about the advance of the GOP and conservatism or of the kingdom of God?
- When Trump does wrong will Christians who are his supporters “speak truth to power” or will they act as his defenders, as some did when the sexual assault video came out.
Many have raised the question about whether those who have criticized Trump will lose power and influence in the next administration. I find that an odd concern. When did the prophets of God ever hold back their criticism to curry favor? Did Daniel hold his tongue to hold on to his power? Did Paul seek favor through flattery? Did Jesus curry favor with Pilate? No, they spoke truth – hard, cold, undesired truth. Sometimes that truth got them positions of honored and sometimes it got them executed, but they never compromised truth for power.
What will we do with Donald Trump?
Will we be fair to him when he does well? We must never be like the press or like the Hollywood haters who are going to go after his scalp. Be reasonable. If he does well, be grateful and thank him.
But my concern is whether we will be willing to confront him, and the GOP, when he speaks sinfully. What will we do when he takes an action that is not just politically disagreeable but morally indefensible? Will we be a principled church? Or will we silence ourselves for the sake of the party? Someone is going to call me liberal because I said Meryl Streep made a point. Oh, no! Horrors. Will we speak truth or be bullied into silence?
The question that faces the SBC is not how much access we have to the halls of power, but will the church stand for truth or be compromised for political gain?
“If you are a person who hates Trump to the point that every single thing he does is seen as evil, you are probably looking through eyes of hate, not reason.”
I’m was one of those who voted for a 3rd party rather than vote for Trump so this is a good reminder. His behavior and tactics are brutally embarrassing to me, but I think we, the embarrassed, ought to judge him more fairly.
I was annoyed by Meryl’s speech last night. I think what bothered me the most in Ms. Streep’s speech was not so much what she said, but how she and others say it. If you listen to the outraged liberal dialog you would believe that Mr. Trump was setting up concentration camps right now.
In the coming days and years we ALL need to find a better way of getting people to move to our side than shouting “FIRE!”
In a certain sense, the issues that we raised in the primaries are moot now. PE Trump should be judged on his BEHAVIOR and his PERFORMANCE, not his past – unless something arises that would cause the government to bring charges.
Will he appoint good men and women, recommend good laws, behave with honor and dignity? If so, then his past and the fact that I didn’t vote for him should not have anything to do with it – if I am principled.
If he does evil, behaves brutishly or dishonestly, breaks promises, etc (or keeps some of his promises!) then the church should be principled and confront him, even if it costs us power or access to the Oval Office.
Bill Mac, I’ll probably be branded as one of those “covering for him” for asking this question, but which brutish behaviors and dishonest instances are Christian supporters covering for him? I am not really following many sites these days so I probably just missed these. Can you cite them?
Well I can probably find some online but I was thinking of people I know personally.
Oh, ok. Thanks Bill Mac.
If you can stomach reading it, Huckabee’s twitter posts are a little of what I’m talking about, specifically about Russia. I thought Jeffress and Falwell’s twitter feeds were full of self-aggrandizement, and they are, but they pale in comparison to Huckabee’s. The thought that these guys “speak” for the SBC is beyond embarrassing.
And you are right, Matt.
We can expect an unmeasured stream of rhetoric from the liberal elites that will cause even a hardened NeverTrumper like me to sympathize with him. It’s really stupid.
I read an article by some Coastal lady yesterday, and she basically condemned the entire middle of the country as unworthy. She was unapologetic and hateful and demeaning. She stated what Streep and her ilk believe.
I was determined to cut Trump some slack, because despite my misgivings, most of which you’ve outlined, he won and the people who supported him deserve a chance to see him make good on whatever it was they thought was good about him. Going forward some things really concern me:
1. Russia. There is something going on with Russia that we don’t know about. Trump’s insistence on cutting a brutal communist dictator slack is unfathomable. Russia has nothing we want or need. We gain nothing from friendly ties with Russia. His denigration of our intelligence community over Russian hacking is outrageous.
2. The debt and deficit. It doubled under Bush, doubled again under Obama. What heights (or lows) will it reach under Trump? I think he’s going to spend like a madman and I don’t think any in congress have the guts to stop him. I hope I’m wrong.
3. He is so thin skinned. The twitter thing is just an embarrassment. He is so anxious for adulation he’s willing to denigrate the host of a show that he himself is still the executive producer of.
Some of his cabinet picks have been good. Some have been pure patronage. At least one worries me. The woman who appears to have plagiarized might be in for a fight but who knows. After the things we’ve forgiven and overlooked with Trump, a little plagiarism seems like a small thing.
The thin-skinned thing is going to be a problem. If you are president and you feel you have to answer every insult, it’s gonna be full time.
If celebs know they can bait him with insults it will get brutal.
I’m reading a book on Presidents in Crisis. If they do a new edition I wonder if there will be a chapter on the time an actress called out the president-elect at the Golden Globes.
Bill Mac, your point #1 above is gaining some traction according to CNN
Gerry: Yeah, I see that. It looks like we need to take all the recent Russia hoopla with a big grain of salt. My concerns about Russia are really solely based on the actions and words of Trump himself. I won’t be surprised if some kind of relationship surfaces, but right now what’s been in the news for the last 24 hrs looks like a mish-mash of fake news, innuendo and wishful thinking by anti-Trumpers.
He also tweeted this morning that Streep was a “Hillary Stooge” – wrong.
Streep rejected both Clinton and Trump for different reasons – She is on record as supporting Bernie in the Primary and then Jill Stein in the general.
Meryl Streep was a Hillary supporter- she spoke at the Democratic Convention. Susan Sarandon didn’t support Hillary or Donald Trump.
Tomato, toe-ma-to
Potato, Poe-ta-to
Streep, Sarandon
Lol.
“Get off my lawn,”
Well, it it obvious that you did watch at least one movie in 2008: GRAN TORINO
Actually, I’ve never seen that movie.
Great post, Dave.
There is certainly a way for the church to retain its independence and not to be partisan or to pick favorites.
Actually, my criticism of some of Trump’s religious critics is not that they were critical of Trump. But it’s that they were belittling religious people who decided to vote for Trump, and they were basically trying to tell people for whom they should vote. So my concerns are that there was too much involvement and management of the race, rather than upholding morals and rising above the race.
My disappointment in people losing access is not that they lost access for being principled, but that they lost access because of a lack of principle and they became too much like pundits, rather than prophets.
Of course, in the case of the SBC, Trump is probably correct to believe that the persons who will be more representative of SBC thinking and will have more influence on SBC thinking will be people like Ronnie Floyd, Mike Huckabee, Franklin Graham etc.
Since there is not a race going on, it will be easier for us to be more objective.
There will be some issues that will be clear.
Other things, such as foreign relations, immigration, monetary and budget policy, law enforcement etc. are not clear. Christians will be all over the map on those issues.
Finally, there are so many things that Trump has said and done in his life that do need to be condemned. I think they have been.
Oh, by the way, I saw a montage of videos of Trump today put together by Catholics for Trump about his alleged making fun of the disabled reporter. After watching that, Trump’s imitation of the reporter, Trump’s denial that he was making fun of the guy or that he even knew him, I have serious doubts that Trump was treated fairly on that. But there is enough stuff that Trump has said and done about which there is no doubt that the severe criticisms were warranted.
Louis: Regarding the disabled reporter I think we have to ask ourselves a few questions. 1: Is Trump the kind of person to mock or lash out against someone, especially someone whom he perceives to have crossed him in some way? 2: Does Trump have a history of being insensitive to people in terms of their looks or abilities or heritage? 3: Is Trump someone likely to be untruthful when confronted with apparent bad behavior? I think any honest person would say Yes, yes, and yes. Given that, I think Occam’s Razor is the best principle to apply here.
You are correct on all points
In this one case, however, I am more inclined to believe in media corruption.
“Trump is probably correct to believe that the persons who will be more representative of SBC thinking and will have more influence on SBC thinking will be people like Ronnie Floyd, Mike Huckabee, Franklin Graham etc.”
I’m not sure Trump even knows what the SBC is, but even if what you say is true, I don’t think it’s a good thing, especially with Huckabee. Is Franklin Graham even Southern Baptist?
A message to “Luther.” I blocked you for abusive speech, for foul language and other offenses. Logging on under an alias isn’t going to make a difference.
It’s not like I don’t know who you are, Scott.
Scott – because of the vile stream of ungodly and racist rants you have posted, all of your pseudonyms have gone into the block file along with your IP address. They will all henceforth go straight into the trash. If you make up more fake names, they will get blocked. :Racist, ungodly rants are not welcome here, Scott.
Amen and thank you Dave for refusing to allow his bile to be spewed here. I don’t know what it was specifically in this case, but everywhere else it is just…well not helpful.
You would not believe the stuff I’ve seen today. There’s been a constant stream of hateful stuff – it turned racist today because of Dwight’s post. I mean vile name-calling, dirty-word type racism.
All of this from someone excoriating me for not being conservative, Bible-believing, and Southern Baptist enough. If you don’t believe that there are still those who believe that racial hatred is part of being a conservative and a Southern Baptist, I can show you the file of the emails I copied before I deleted them.
I know he used to comment frequently at some of the anti-Calvinist blogs, but I don’t read them, so I’m not sure if he’s still on those.
He’s still own one of them. Not surprised at all. He’s a very bitter person.