1) Though we have great theological disagreements, at least we can all unite in hopes that the Yankees rise up to smite the forces of darkness from Baltimore. Amen and amen.
2) It was a reasonable if unusual call in the 8th inning of the Atlanta game and the Turner Field fans demonstrated a humongous lack of class.
3) The Braves and Rangers losing is good. The Cardinals and Orioles winning is bad. Does the good outweigh the bad? Hard to say.
4) Someone needs to either hire a defensive coordinator or change the rules in NCAA football. Very few teams are playing defense.
5) When players are paid as much as the SEC pays them, they SHOULD be as good as they are. (That was for CB).
6) The baseball playoffs are a crapshoot. It is the only sport where the game fundamentally changes from the regular season to the postseason. A team needs 5 decent starters to make the playoffs over a 162 game season, but with 2 dominant starters a team can go all the way.
7) The Nebraska “blackshirt” defense will be wearing pink in practice all week.
8) Fantasy football has ruined pro football. I watch games with family and friends who are all in a league and they don’t cheer for teams, they cheer for players. “Why didn’t Rogers throw that to Jennings?” It is ridiculous!
9) We are talking about sports here, so discussions of hockey in any form would be inappropriate.
10) Watching the Red Sox flounder has been really fun, but baseball doesn’t seem right when a Yankees/Red Sox season-ending series involves the Yankees playing against a team from Pawtucket. No Youkilis. No Papi. No Becket. No A-gon. No Varitek. Just weird.
11) Tony Romo is not likely to ever end up on Dallas’ Ring of Honor. He might end up in a noose though.
12) Sports matter a LOT to Baptist preachers and bloggers evidently. Friday, we were having a pretty active day here, and about the time the baseball playoffs started, the site activity went WAY down.
Again, altogether, let’s chant this all day. “Let’s go, Yankees,” ……….I can’t hear you!
Actual conversation in my living room today with Zachary, age 11 and 3/4.
Me: Zach, do you know who the Yankees are?
Zach: Is it spelled Y-A-N-K-E-E-S?
Me: Yes.
Zach: umm….it’s a baseball team?
Me: Are you sure?
Zach: Uh, yes?
Me: You don’t sound sure.
Zach: I’m sure. They’re from, like, New York, right?
I rest my case.
“12) Sports matter a LOT to Baptist preachers and bloggers evidently.”
I first got into blogging via the influence of my sister-in-law, who is a Methodist pastor and some of the initial blogs I read came from her blog-roll (mostly Methodists, surprise, surprise) . After a while, it occurred to me that I should find some Baptist blogs. During my search, I came across a Baptist Blog aggregator. What was immediately obvious on first glance was the preponderance of sports posts: every other post had something to do with sports of some kind. When I find that half of the Baptist blog posts are about sports, I have to agree that sports matter a lot to Baptist bloggers.
Dave… I suspect you and I would get along well that became apparent during an earlier baseball conversation. (By the way, no substantive counter-argument has been made to the clear supremacy of baseball as the best sport ever.)
HOWEVER… this Yankee fan thing (that and the DH-controversy) will be causing strong differing views. Not that that’s a bad thing… just observing. For example… the observations I agree with:
2) – reasonable? yes. the right call? probably not. Atlanta fans? agreed, then again, I’m a Cubs fan…. “Hello, pot? This is kettle. You’re black”
4) I think this is on purpose. The average contemporary college student would probably walk out of a real game — attention spans being the way they are.
5) Now that the Aggies are in the SEC you may have to qualify your statements.
6) While I question the use of the word “crapshoot” (are you a gambler? hmmmm?) , the teams still need good bullpens, solid defense, and opportunistic offense.
7) I have no idea what you’re talking about.
8) I don’t watch a lot of football, but can see what you’re saying.
9) HA! I’m not Canadian, so I thought that was funny.
10) Not being a Yankee fan… this doesn’t affect me.
11) People here in Texas are still defending him. I think he’s over-rated — not because of his skills though. He just isn’t the caliber leader that a solid offense needs.
12) Interesting… but I haven’t really been on all week. Just saying.
That brings us to the two I take issue with:
3a) The Braves and Rangers losing is not good (while I agree that the Yankees would not have gotten past the Rangers, I don’t they can get past the O’s either…. so you should have just rooted for the good guys.
3b) The Cardinals and Nats will be a good series. The Orioles will prove too much for the Bombers… so for you not a lot of good being crushed under the weight of “bad.”
and to #1) I am pulling for the O’s to win it all. I like Buck, am impressed by Manny, and think they have had a remarkable season.
I told my husband he would like Dave Miller’s preaching…except for team choices…Roy is from St. Louis and so was born and raised a Cardinal fan.
1) Though we have great theological disagreements, at least we can all unite in hopes that the Yankees rise up to smite the forces of darkness from Baltimore. Amen and amen.
Baltimore will win. They must win. I shall dance an Irish Jig if they do win.
2) It was a reasonable if unusual call in the 8th inning of the Atlanta game and the Turner Field fans demonstrated a humongous lack of class.
The Braves fans were shameful. It was a disgusting display of rude conduct.
3) The Braves and Rangers losing is good. The Cardinals and Orioles winning is bad. Does the good outweigh the bad? Hard to say.
It was not a good thing for the Braves and Rangers to go down.
4) Someone needs to either hire a defensive coordinator or change the rules in NCAA football. Very few teams are playing defense.
The SABANATION plays defense. Of course they are doing all things well. That is because the word “FOOTBALL” is spelled CRIMSON TIDE in its proper form.
5) When players are paid as much as the SEC pays them, they SHOULD be as good as they are. (That was for CB).
We do not pay our players, we financially encourage them to do well. There is a difference. Of course, only the cultured understand the difference. A BUZZARD-EYE has no culture. Therefore it is impossible for them to understand the difference between paying a player and encouraging a player.
6) The baseball playoffs are a crapshoot. It is the only sport where the game fundamentally changes from the regular season to the postseason. A team needs 5 decent starters to make the playoffs over a 162 game season, but with 2 dominant starters a team can go all the way.
Brave and Rangers are out so who cares?
7) The Nebraska “blackshirt” defense will be wearing pink in practice all week.
All Lesser Nations (None SEC) wear pink in practice ’cause they are sissies. So why are you making mention of this? Everyone already knows it.
8) Fantasy football has ruined pro football. I watch games with family and friends who are all in a league and they don’t cheer for teams, they cheer for players. “Why didn’t Rogers throw that to Jennings?” It is ridiculous!
I agree!
9) We are talking about sports here, so discussions of hockey in any form would be inappropriate.
Don’t forget Water Polo as being inappropriate to discuss also.
10) Watching the Red Sox flounder has been really fun, but baseball doesn’t seem right when a Yankees/Red Sox season-ending series involves the Yankees playing against a team from Pawtucket. No Youkilis. No Papi. No Becket. No A-gon. No Varitek. Just weird.
Hope the Yankees lose.
11) Tony Romo is not likely to ever end up on Dallas’ Ring of Honor. He might end up in a noose though.
Hopefully.
12) Sports matter a LOT to Baptist preachers and bloggers evidently. Friday, we were having a pretty active day here, and about the time the baseball playoffs started, the site activity went WAY down.
All except Ben Coleman because he is a heathen and an infidel.
Well, I guess I’m glad I know where I stand.
Keep the faith, Ben. The Lord is on your side (and definitely NOT on the side of the Crimson Tide).
This is why I’ve developed such advanced skills in spotting crowds bearing torches and pitchforks (and avoiding them).
Ben Coleman and Dale Pugh,
You both need to stay after church tonight and have a long talk with the preacher. There is hope for heathens and infidels who repent.
Uhhhh, I AM the preacher. I’m in deep trouble, I guess.
But, CB. You haven’t yet identified an actual sin we need to repent of. Just some partisan quibbling over minor, inconsequential things like what sports team we support (or, in my case, utter apathy about supporting sports teams).
Heretics!
Actually, CB, in one of my pastor’s recent sermons, he rather bluntly talks about the ‘Sports Idolatry of the South”, so he may not be that sympathetic to your position (not to mention that his own preference is for the USC Gamecocks).
Dave:
I normally have a tremendous amount of respect for your opinion. I will now disagree–
#1–No, we can’t.
#3–The Rangers losing is not a good thing. Just ask Rick Patrick. He knows the truth. And the truth will set you free. The Yankees are the Dark Side.
#5–Okay. I can agree with this one.
#11–I was yelling, “Tebow! Tebow!” last week during the Cowboys game. Then I realized Tim Tebow doesn’t play for the Cowboys. Sigh.
Respectfully submitted,
Dale
Bad sports weekend for me in high school football, major league baseball and college football–Gophers, Rangers and Longhorns ALL lost.
The Cowboys, however, did NOT lose.
They had a bye.
They needed a bye.
I told you Rick Patrick knows the truth.
By the way, CB……The Huskies couldn’t get it done last night. 52-21? Oh my. I hear the quacking from way down here in TX! See you at the National Championship!
Dale Pugh,
That is not quacking you hear. That is honking. The Canadians are flying south for the winter.
Oh, CB. We all know that Canadians can’t play football. But the Oregon Ducks sure can!
Dale Pugh,
Deep down in the darker recesses of my heart, I kinda hope the DUCK NATION does face the SABANATION is the national Championship. Game.
I can see it now. All those ugly feather like jerseys crushed beneath the gridiron as the Flagship Nation of the SEC, the SABANATION, dines on B-B-Q duck to finish a perfect season.
BTW, Dale Pugh, has anyone ever told you that you look like Marty Duren?
Marty Duren? No. But I can see how someone might say that.
As for Duck BBQ, I hope they meet up with the Tide at the Championship. It’s a certainty that the Tide would NEVER stoop so low as to travel past the Rockies to meet a REAL team in one of the most hostile environments in the football kingdom–Autzen Stadium in Eugene, OR. A sign should be hung over the opposing team’s locker room door–“Abandon hope all ye who enter here.” Hmmm, seems I’ve read that somewhere………Now THAT would be the perfect meal. Roasted Crimson Tide!
Go Ducks!
BTW, CB, I just happened to think……
Do you have any “lighter recesses” in your heart????
Go Cards!
David
Vol,
There are times when I think you are the descendent of the demonic of Gadaria.
How does such blasphemous words fall from the lips of a member of the SEC family?
Go Cards!
1. Dave, have you lost your mind. No Southerner takes up for the Yankees ever since they burned down the home place (o that was another set of Yankees) (my son likes the set you support) (the name does me in…and my pastor still talks about preaching Catfish Hunter’s funeral and having most of the team there, including Reggie Jackson (I mentioned that we ought to get him to come and give his testimony now that he is converted and hold a baseball camp)). And CB Baltimore is a Southern Baptist town. Annie Armstrong was from there along with Richard Fuller (I think he baptized her, but my memory is shaky now).
3. Anyone can understand Red Neck Wrath at blind umps (besides it might have been the other teams fans, not wanting to take an unfair advantage) except those who never question earthly authorities…not exactly an unamerican practice since the days of the Revolutionary War and the War between the States (Ok, Ok. I’ll conceded it was like the Revolutionary war, it was a civil war).
4.?? As any one knows: The best defense is a good offense.
5.I always suspected the SEC after the Bear died and he was worth $50 million. Ala. needs another coach from Arkansas. It is a fine line, indeed, between paying and encouraging, one anyone knows is phoney baloney!
6. I keep hoping my friend’s son, Phil Garner, will get another crack at managing a major league team.
7. Okay. Cornhuskers at 6.8 and weighing 280 lbs are not exactly the kind of people to call “sissies”. Not even chickens. More like yearling bulls like the one that helped me win a fellow to Christ by butting a hold in his side with the knot on that bull’s head. Talk about a fellow who stepped out of the dorm that Sunday evening as I came into the dorm from church and said he wanted to accept the Lord (I had talked about the Lord and the Bible before he went home that weekend to help his dad with some yearlings at the Ralston Purina farms in the Fall of 1960). He showed me the hole in his side…and said, if that yearling had caught him in the chest, he would have been in eternity,. I didn’t doubt it either in view of the hole. easiest convert I ever won..though it took a few days and a young bull to supply the help.
8. My son has been in that mess for a long time…sort of like the baseball rummy stuff we played when I was a teenager…a waste of good time.
9. My wife’s nurse that came into the home to change her bandages was a former hockey player from Canada. Nice, polite, very efficient. And though I had him by a hundred lbs, I would never dream of telling a hockey player that that was not a sport. I don’t think they take too kindly to such baloney, and their response is only slightly less effective than a cowboy been on fast draw.
10. Blessed relief. I agree with CB about the yankees though it might break my son’s heart. He just got back from a week at the beach with his men from his church and a tremendous hall of fish…and they even had time for devotions by a preacher from the mountains of NC.
11. Cowboys are demanding folks. My great grandpappy was one, the real ones, that is. A fast draw artist, they tell me he use to do a fast draw on the back porch and shoot the heads off of guinea hens that were destined to be Sunday dinner. No one needed to tell my why he shot their heads off. He lived to be 89 and died in 1949 (had I known he was living, I would have run away from home to see him…even though I was just 8 yrs old then).
12. Fussin’ with Baptist preachers is more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
O life is ruined, it is over. I find that Volfan and I agree. He cheers the cards. An Arminian and a Calvinist going for the same baseball team. He must be a Southern Gentleman. BEsides my maternal Great great grandpappy graduated from the Univ. of Tenn. as did Phil Garmer and his father my friend worked on a master’s in history there for a while way back when… O what has life come to….THE THIRD GREAT AWAKENING, OF COURSE.
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James,
Baltimore is a Yankee town. You cannot find a bowl of grits in any hotel there. Not even their crab cakes are fit to eat and if they were, you would have to buy a hundred of them because they are the size of a postage stamp. And they have not had a good baseball player there since Brooks Robinson.
CB: Baltimore as I pointed out provided Southern Baptists with Annie Armstrong to inspire our Home Missions efforts. Enuff said.
A) The SEC is badly overrated this year. They have three quality teams: Bama, SC and Florida. The rest are bad or overrated. Bama may find that it’s overrated before the season’s over.
B) If there’s any justice in the choosing of teams to play for the national title a Southern team will not be taking home the Coaches’ Trophy this year.
C) For all the steroid abuse going on in baseball it still manages to be one of the most boring sports ever played. That is why baseball will never be even half the sport hockey is.
Apostate!
When they’re reduced to calling you names, instead of making actual accusations, you know you’ve made a telling point.
No, Ben. In sports debate, hurling epithets is perfectly acceptable.
Acceptable, perhaps, but much less effective, not to mention much less interesting. CB is capable of much more. E.g. see his previous response (to Dr James). When someone capable of so much more merely hurl epithets, it gives the impression that what he’s responding to has made such a telling point that it has frozen the brain and reduced it to mere epithets.
While I’m not normally one to engage in sports debate, in the current state of public discourse, one has to admire a means of common debate driven so much by ad hominems that so rarely descends to Bulverism. You do expect it, however, to demonstrate some amount of wit and cleverness. Mere epithets don’t normally do that.
Warning, Ben: CB’s reply ignored the fact that Baltimore provided us with the lady who inspired our home missions. Besides Southern Baptists have been there since before the Civil War. Why do you suppose they had to have so many troops around Washington, D.C.? To keep Baltimore and Maryland from bolting to the Confederacy.
Ben Coleman,
There are times when there is no need for more than one word.
If one calls for justice in the FOOTBALL UNIVERSE being that a Southern (SEC) NATION not win the National Championship, there is little more to be said than to declare that one person as an Apostate!
If one puts in print for the whole world to see that Baseball is less a sport than hockey, there is only one word to use to describe such a person. That word is Apostate!
I save the worst offense until last. For a human who has attended a single FOOTBALL game in his life or owns a wide screen TV dedicated to Sports only and watches FOOTBALL even occasionally, yet would dare to even suggest that the SABANATION is overrated can be described by a knowledgeable Sports Fan as only one thing; An Apostate!!
Ben Coleman, you should be aware of this without my having to explain it to you even if you are a heathen infidel for not watching Sports as much as you should, especially FOOTBALL.
Now *that* is much better, even if it we have to mark off points for it being an argument in favor of single-epithet responses.
CB. Ain’t never seen a hockey game (I only look at them on tv at sports reporting time on the local news). Just a fight. But CB, I would not have told that slim and trim hockey player his game was not a sport for all the tea in China. Hockey players are not exactly easy people to argue with. They prefer to us hockey sticks to settle arguments. Besides, he was polite, respectful, etc. Cunucks are fighters, however. Sort of like all my Scotch and Norman ancestors: They would rather fight than do any thing else. My grandfather’s brother who had his battlefield commission from WWI (he served in the Spanish American, Philippine, WWI and WWII) said the Germans called the Scotch soldiers in WWI, the ladies from Hell (that is not a cuss word. It is a statement of historical fact).
Dr. James, you’re watching the wrong hockey games. Fighting isn’t tolerated at the college level and despite what most hockey fans would say, I think it makes things more interesting without idiotic violence. Kind of like the difference between college basketball and the NBA; anyone who has any respect for the sport of basketball will prefer college over that joke of a game they play among the “pros”. At least that’s what I’ve heard, I don’t care for basketball any more than I care for baseball.
I was pretty clear that we were discussing sports and not full-contact ice dancing, also known as hockey.
oh now, if your kid is raised on a northern lake, ice hockey takes favored precedence over glorified stick ball any day
Dave, I’ve not seen much dancing in hockey, but if you’re referring to figure skating I do have more respect for that than a bunch of fat guys fanning the dugouts with sticks and occasionally jogging around a square.
What is this hockey?
David
Blake, insulting baseball puts you in danger around here of a lifetime ban!
(At least while the Pinstripes are still playing.)
Blake, admittedly, I have not seen a college hockey game though I have some distant relatives in Missouri who have played such. More interesting, yes. But Cunucks like their excitement about like Americans as both are descended from them same scotch, etc.
Yankees win. The-e-e-e Yankees WIN!
CC is worth every penny he is paid.
The 4th best team in the SEC would win most other conferences championships.
David
EXCEPT for the PAC 12…….
Dale
Dale Pugh,
Obviously, you have retained the youthful ability to dream the impossible dream. In that I envy you. However, You can dream all you like and as long as you like, but even Vandy is superior to anything in the PAC 12.
Let me explain it to you again as I have had to do for so many of the other Lesser Conference FOOTBALL Fans who frequent SBC Voices.
There is the NFL, then there is the SEC. If the NFL played the SEC it would be the SEC then the NFL.
After that there are the High School FOOTBALL Teams of the Southern United States, then there are the Lesser FOOTBALL Conferences in the FOOTBALL UNIVERSE. Just after them, but closing fast are all the Little League FOOTBALL Teams of the Southern United States.
Dale Pugh, the SEC is FOOTBALL. All others are just wannabes.
I hope this helps you understand. And remember, I as a Card Carrying Elite SEC FOOTBALL Fan, with all the instilled humility such a position sanctions, am always glad to help those of Lesser Conference fandom become more educated of the truth of FOOTBALL. So feel free to call on me anytime. I am always ready to help. Just ask poor Ole Dave “BUZZARD-EYE” Miller. He can testify to the many times I have helped him to understand.
cb, I think all the cigarette smoke in the South is clouding your view of what’s actually happening on the football field (and the second hand smoke may be addling your mind ;P ). Vandy lost to Northwestern, who, as we all know, is one of the historically weak teams in an especially weak B1G this year. Most SEC teams would not stand any more of a chance and probably less of a chance in the Big 12, ACC or Pac 12 this year.
Northwestern may be an historically weak team in the Big 10, but I do not think that is true this year. They lost this weekend for the first time, but they are certainly in the upper half of teams.
This is just so sad. The ACC? Blake! Really??
You know, guys like Rick Patrick could really help us out here with his quick wit and gift as a word smith were it not for the fact that he is not a true born SEC member. He has too much Texas blood in his veins.
This is just so sad…so very, very sad.
I watched a good bit of college football this weekend. My analysis, the SEC is strong at the top and weak after you get past AL and SC and I’m not so sure about SC. GA is very overrated, LSU has not looked strong at all, everyone after them is no better than average in any of the top conferences.
We will see if AL and Ore keep it up, they look to be the class of CF this year
CB Scott, I’m impressed with your ability to maneuver the highways and byways of life with those huge blinders on your head. Your SEC tunnel vision is admirable in “fandom”, but reality bites. Your faith is well-placed in Alabama. No argument there. But this ongoing SEC drivel is simply ludicrous. Your delusions of football grandeur elicit pity from those of us who support those teams playing in non-highly overrated conferences.
We shall see where the chips fall as the season continues. Oregon is setting a high standard, as is Oregon State. I believe you and others of your ilk are in for a rude awakening. May God have mercy on your sad, sad football souls.
AMEN!!
Waiting for a CB explosion in 3….2….1…
I have a question. This word, “overrated.” Did your Fourth Grade language Arts teacher give you all that word to use in a sentence or something?
OK, that is good. I want you all to do your homework, make good grades, and grow up to become productive citizens, get good jobs, provide well for your families, go to church, and vote republican in November. I am for all of that. That is good.
However, children, one thing that Uncle cb wants you all to do is…Come to grips with reality about FOOTBALL and how the FOOTBALL UNIVERSE works. FOOTBALL is the SEC. The SEC is FOOTBALL. As the SEC goes, FOOTBALL goes. I realize that is a hard lesson for young minds to grasp since you all are not SEC born and raised, but facts are facts and you all must see life in the FOOTBALL UNIVERSE as it is.
The Championship of the college football world is played every year in Atlanta, GA….it’s the SEC Championship game.
David
These words written by a card carrying member of the SEC are true. Read and learn all you children of Lesser FOOTBALL Conferences. Let Uncle Vol help you. He is a good man. He will not lead you astray.
Great news. Just learned that our son has given up on the Yankees, although he has not on fantasy football. And he also says the Braves’ fans had a right to get mad. They were cheated. Sometimes the Lord does remember us.