- 20/20 Conference, Plenary Session V: Danny Akin
- 20/20 Conference, Plenary Session IV: Bill Brown
- 20/20 Conference, Session III: Mark Driscoll
- 20/20 Conference, Plenary Session II: C. J. Mahaney
- 20/20 Conference, Plenary Session I: Mark Driscoll
I’m not sure if they will be posting audio, but watch for it here.
It’s too bad that with the rampant worldliness that already exists within the context of the SBC, that Danny Akin has chosen to use and use repeatedly Mark Driscoll. God deliver us from the shallowness of his worldview!
It’s too bad that with the rampant hypocrisy and laziness that already exists within the context of the SBC, that people have chosen to rant and rant repeatedly against Mark Driscoll. God deliver us from the ignorance of their worldview!
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Todd, AMEN! I am so very tired of all the Extra-Biblical standards for what is actable Christian conduct coming from some in the SBC. I understand that there were over 1400 students in attendance… so many were trying to get into the chapel at SEBTS to hear Mark Driscoll that they had to set up TV’s in overflow rooms. WOW! I think the Jeff’s of the SBC are simply afraid of Driscoll… and judging from the reception he got at SEBTS I would say they have a good reason to be afraid, make that very afraid. Grace Always, Grace Always,… Read more »
Well, Greg . . . afraid of Mark Driscoll . . . not exactly. Interesting in having lunch with a well-known Washington DC SBC Calvinist, he lamented the use of Mark Driscoll in prominent places in evangelicalism . . . and for the same reason. And by the way, 1 John 2:15ff is a biblical text that I am not sure Driscoll takes seriously. By the way, while I was baptized in the early 70’s in the SBC and I hold a PhD from Southern (2004) under Tom Nettles, I am not currently in the SBC. However, as I have… Read more »
Jeff, I am not here to defend Mark Driscoll, who has admitted to making his share of mistakes in the past, I’ve never meet Mark so I’m not in any position to be his Judge but perhaps you are? I deeply respect the opinions of John MacArthur and Tom Nettles (I have meet Tom a few times, but I have not had any of his classes) however I am at a loss as to why you bring them into this discussion? Just what is it about Mark Driscoll that is so upsetting to you? Is it because Mark is a… Read more »
Greg: My problem with Driscoll has nothing to do with his theology which I personally am in sympathy with but with his worldiness, his wretched vulgarity–and the pornification of evangelicalism. I have attached three links–one from Baptist Press today, the second from a New York Times article of one month ago and the third from Driscoll’s Mars Hill church web site. http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=29852 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/magazine/11punk-t.html http://blog.marshillchurch.org/2008/11/30/question-21-can-i-perform-anal-sex-on-my-wife/ As for my use of John MacArthur, he is the only evangelical with the backbone to publicly address Driscoll and his “grunge Christianity.” I would reverse your question to me . . . what is it… Read more »
Jeff, I really had to spend some time in prayer before I felt comfortable responding to you again. It is clear that you are “sincerely” offended by Mark Driscoll and as I said before “I am not here to defend Mark Driscoll” . 1st – I agree with you on Sodomy… The Scriptures are very clear that this is never acceptable and Mark should reverse his position on this sin. He is simply wrong on this issue. 2nd – I disagree with you about Beverage Alcohol. Again the Scriptures are very clear that Jesus and his disciples did drink Wine,… Read more »
Greg: I am glad to hear you are “offended” with some of what Driscoll says, but it does sound like you are defending him, which of course is your perogative. As for Jesus making wine or Welchs–that is really a non sequitor in the discussion on whether or not believers in our 21st century world should drink Sam Adams, Budweiser, Jack Daniels, or Johnny Walker. It is really interesting to me that Christians who have no problem rejecting slavery, despite the fact that the OT regulated it and the NT overlooked it, cannot see that the use of wine in… Read more »
Jeff and Greg, I cannot give you the citation right off, I think it was in his sermon containing 1 Timothy 5.23, Driscoll commented that there is a difference between drinking alcohol like beer or wine and drinking strong drink, which would be hard liquor, like Jack Daniels and Johnny Walker that were mentioned above. Plus, he has never once wavered on the morality of getting drunk. Also, Jeff, you said, “the use of wine in Jesus day simply has no parallel to the use of alcohol in our world today.” I would strongly disagree with this statement. I will… Read more »
Todd: Check out the website of the Marin Institute for stats on the use of alcohol in our world today. (Caveat – I am unsure if this group has a hidden agenda, but they do refer to outside groups like the Mayo Clinic). The use and abuse of alcohol a problem of epic proportions, especially in countries like France where the French drink much more than Americans. Granted we are talking about the abuse of alcohol in most cases but what constitutes abuse in one person is at best subjective. Jesus had very few beverage choices in his day. It… Read more »