A resurgence of church discipline is making the news today as the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) has written an article on church discipline, excommunication and the ban. They cite several cases from Baptist churches and even quote Southern Seminary professor Greg Wills. Here is what Southern Baptist bloggers and others are saying about the news.
Wall Street Journal on Church Discipline, Excommunication, Baptist Ban – WSJ
A Wall Street Journal Hatchet Job by Dr. Hershael York, a professor at Southern Seminary and Southern Baptist pastor. He writes
The article is tantamount to being against spanking because some parents abuse their children, or criticizing “time out” because some parents lock their children in the basement.
I have little doubt that discipline is sometimes abused, but frankly the greater and far more frequent problem in contemporary churches is that discipline isn’t even discussed–regardless of what Jesus taught. What a shame that a publication the stature of the WSJ would countenance so unbalanced a presentation of the facts.
Church Discipline Matters by Barry Joslin (Boyce College Professor)
Would that all of us think rightly about what it means to be in fellowship with other believers in a local church since being woven into the fabric of a local church matters. Would that God would help us all understand the biblical basis for church discipline in both its corrective and preventative forms. As Dever rightly warns, if we can’t, as a church, “say how a Christian should not live, how can we say how a Christian should live?”
Church Discipline Gets Chastised in WSJ by Dr. Denny Burk, a professor at the Criswell College in Dallas, Texas. He writes:
On the whole, the story is negative, focusing on cases which are less than exemplary. A church here in Dallas is mentioned in the article, Watermark Community Church, as well as First Baptist Church of Muscle Shoals, Alabama and Lakeview Baptist Church in Auburn, Alabama.
Banned From Church by Tim Ellsworth, a writer for Baptist press, also links the article. He writes:
And while many churches might be willing to discipline for offenses such as adultery, sadly, they’re not willing to discipline for such issues as “skipping service and criticizing church leaders.” I know a lot of churches that could have been spared so much heartache and division if the church had obediently and lovingly disciplined those who were habitual gossips and consistent critics of church leaders.
The Truth or Consequence bloggers are also talking it over.
What Other Bloggers Are Saying About The Wall Street Journal on Church Discipline, Excommunication and the Baptist ban
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I am one of those who has been excommunicated and shunned, albeit for unbiblical and unjust reasons. I did refuse the Wall Street Journal’s request to tell my story in this article, but my story is online, if you are interested in a real live story about this. Just click on my name. I’m glad that attention is being given to when the discipline is sometimes just plain wrong.
As the theologians circle the wagons, one fact still remains clear: There is no oversight of “independent” churches when church discipline rises to abuse or spiritual “rape” by an unaccountable pastor. This is particularly true in baptistic circles. When the theologians opposed to the WSJ article are man enough to begin taking their fellow pastors to task for abusing the sheep, then they have a leg to stand on. However, until such time, all that these theologians accomplish with their opposition to the article (regardless of how one sided) is to show the world they love power just as much… Read more »
I was excommunicated From the Episcopal Church in the Episcopal Dioecese of South Carolina Nov. 7. 2002. SEE story in: THE CHARLESTON CITY PAPER in the archived articles. The title of the article is “BREAKING FAITH”. The caption reads; The Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina protects one parisheoner that preys on its flock and excommunicates another who tries to protect it.” I was excommunicated when I would not be silent about a preditor in the church who was later arrested in 2004. I was later issued a letter by The Protestant Episcopal Church USA acknowledging that I am in good… Read more »
Yes… I was disciplined “wrongly” in a church. The discipline was abused becasue I was trying to open eyes about easy decisionism and pragmatic church evangelism that turned the church into a circus. I tried to put a motion through encouraging our church to follow Resolutuion no. 6 at last years SBC comvention actually advocatiing church discipline on wayward membership and it was shot down… and instead they disciplined me. Well… praise God, becasue now I am at a truly biblically based church that does believe in correct discipline and loving restoration. God is sovereign and He is good. The… Read more »
No doubt, God is soverign and good. This is true of God though, it is not always true of we human beings. Often our beloved trusted leaders, who call themselves CALLED OF GOD, fail themselves, their families and their churches. Our leaders stand in the pulpet on Sunday mornings and preach to us about right living. They speak of how we members are supposed to behave, all the while they are failing in their own lives to live up to the standards, which they expect of the people in their care. No one is ever perfect. We are all flawed… Read more »
There is no doubt about the fact that the issue of child-molesters must be dealt with firmly. I had an experience of having to deal with 5 cases of incest in 3 mos, This was yrs. ago. It moved me to get training in order to address such situations. What utterly blew me away was to find out how devestating sexual abuse of children can be them as they grow up, mature, and become adults. Then I worked in a Senior High School with a large counseling staff. As a member of that staff my responsibility was to handle the… Read more »