Because I work in an office, I usually don’t have much trouble writing the correct date after New Year’s Day. Yesterday, January 6, marked the first time I wrote 2014 and then quickly changed the 4 into a 5. Even still, it’s strange to refer to December as “last year.”
But last year on December 19 I got an unexpected Christmas present from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary where I am a part-time, distance student. Since this Christmas present isn’t for me only, but for all current and future SBTS students, I figured I should share it with the readership of SBC Voices.
The gift came in the form of an email that read:
Since 1859 Southern Seminary has been committed to providing accessible theological training. By God’s grace, our Master of Divinity program is continuing in the vision set forth by our Founder, James P. Boyce, to offer theological education to any gospel minister that God calls. For the first time in its history, Southern Seminary is pleased to announce that the Master of Divinity program is now available with no limits on how many of your credit hours can be taken online.
There are no longer barriers preventing you from receiving the best theological education by earning the Master of Divinity in whatever ministry context to which you have been called.
Privileged to partner with you for the truth, for the church, for the world,
Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D.
Associate Vice President for Online Learning and Extension Education
C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Family Ministry
Up until now, the M.Div required a minimum 30 credit hours (10 full classes) on campus. That’s over 3 full semesters and represents a significant investment of both time and money for non-traditional students who either have to take time off work and make travel arrangements for “accelerated” on campus courses or suspend their normal way of life to live on campus for a year.
I’ve been taking one class per semester which enables me to continue working at my full time job, spend time with my wife and children, and serve as a volunteer (and now bi-vocational associate pastor) at my church, but that’s only because I could take a few accelerated courses and because Indianapolis to Louisville and back isn’t much of a haul. With the M.Div now fully online, anybody anywhere can go to Southern.
If you’ve ever considered going to seminary but felt you were unable to because of your responsibilities to your family, your job, or your church, there has never been a better time than now to start. From what I understand, all Southern Baptist seminaries now offer some fully online programs, and most have a fully online M.Div program. Contact Admissions for more information.
Andrew
This is very exciting news for folks in areas like Montana. Most of our indigenous pastors are called to ministry late in life. Traveling from Montana to anywhere for seminary is difficult for those men. Now there is a great opportunity to receive the education that they desire. There are other opportunities, but this adds a good school and another option to the list.
Andrew, I am not sure about the other SBC seminaries but, NOBTS has also adjusted their online MDiv program. Now it is possible to get and MDiv and the first time you step on campus could be to graduate. I am glad to see that our schools are adjusting to the needs of potential students. This is a win-win for students, the schools and our churches. Now the only inhibitor to seminary education is price.
Not sure what Southerns fees are but here at NOBTS there is an additional technology fee on top of the per hour tuition rate, Additionally, online classes are not funded or reimbursed by the convention CP, so students do not receive the 50% reduction for tuition like they get when taking an in-residence or classroom course. I am hoping to see this addressed at some point soon. While it is a great blessing to be able to balance ministry, life and education through the online degree program, I am afraid that the cost and lack of discount may inhibit many from pursuing all the education available.
Still this is a great step forward and I commend both schools for making this move. When I first began pursuing theological education in 2007, Liberty offered an online degree. I once approached the Associate Dean at the NOBTS extension center i attended and asked why our schools did not offer the same type of degree and were we not concerned about losing student to Liberty. His response was less than positive about the idea of a fully online degree, which even then was a failure to embrace the trend of educational options. Glad to see we are getting on board even if we are late. Good luck in your studies.
Mitch
I did not know that the discount did not apply to on-line students. Some of you guys that have influence should seek to change this situation. Again I say for areas like Montana this is HUGE.
I would add that the three years I spent at SWBTS were the best three years of my life. I enjoyed the study, professors, and dear friends I still have to this day. However, it was just my wife and I, we were 22-23 years old, we had just finished college, she worked at a good job while I was part time staff and then pastor, and “tuition” was just $50 for a full 16 hour load (books were another $50). Hence we made little to no sacrifice to attend seminary. We had friends who were older with kids and my respect level for them was off the charts. I said all of that to say that if one can attend on campus it is worth it. However, so many situations are different and on campus is not an option. Hence this is a real opportunity for which I am thankful to SB.
Again tho, I want to say to you guys with influence, I would urge you to use it to get a better price break. As has been points out already this is prohibitive for many.
That’s awesome news! I know SEBTS and NOBTS have online MDiv programs. I started at SEBTS last fall and I live in Mississippi. I was torn between SBTS and SEBTS, but when SEBTS went fully online that was the deciding factor. If only Mohler had moved faster I’d be at Southern! Oh well – I’ve really come to love the Southeastern guys.
I am curious how this will affect the growth of the seminaries. SEBTS has been the fastest growing in recent years. I wonder if Southern will take the lead in the near future.
For anyone not familiar with the
Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) seminaries,
they are:
Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, TX
Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, KY
New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, LA
Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, NC
Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, MO
Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, CA
Other seminaries closely related to the SBC:
Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary, TN
Liberty Baptist Seminary, VA
Luther Rice Seminary, GA
You can find their sites easily with an internet search.
All the above believe in the inerrancy of the Bible.
As has been mentioned, probably all are now offering online classes.
If I’ve made any mistakes or left anyone out, I’m sure someone will offer corrections.
David R. Brumbelow
All or most of these seminaries also have satellite campuses in addition to their main campus.
David R. Brumbelow
The deal about no online tuition price breaks (that’s because online enrollment numbers are not counted in calculating each seminary’s share of the Cooperative Program Allocation Budget, I think) is likely to be a hot topic in the short term future.
I’m reading that the old seminary model, bricks and mortar, two or three year residency work, etc. cannot succeed. So, how long will we fund our six seminaries who educate mostly men for declining numbers of viable full time church positions and a static number of overseas missions slots?
We’ve got a couple of high and exalted seminary trustees and former trustees here. I’d love to see honest talk about the mess (speaking organizationally not morally) that is Southern Baptist ministerial education. We’ve got six seminaries. We’ve got seminaries that do a lot of undergrad education. We’ve got state colleges that do the undergrad stuff plus some grad ministerial degrees.
I have no idea where all of this will go.
William T
I agree that this needs a hard look. It seems there is a lot of duplication especially the undergrad situation.
For the reason you annunciated, the convention will of necessity look at the structure. The issue as I see it will be everyone protecting their own territory. If that is anything like the historical issue of all entities protecting their budgets, it is likely to be hot.
I think even a cursory look at this structure presents some obvious changes that would educate as many students for less money.
William
I agree that this is a conversation that needs to be had, especially the funding. I am afraid it will be a conversation that never takes place since what we are really talking about is more money going to the seminaries from the CP. That I am sure is a nonstarter. The current situation as I understand it (and D.L. I wish I had some influence but in reality I am just another student and a second career minister like you have in Montana) seems to be a win for the schools in that they can maintain or even increase enrollment without a loss in funds since the online students pay the full tuition plus tech fees. The only real losers, if any exist, are the students who are paying the full tuition. Also here at NOBTS online classes do not count toward full-time status and therefore are not eligible for most scholarships.
I will say this though about seminary and money, my wife and I are both students and have been now for more semesters than we ever thought we could be. We have never borrowed a penny for school or its related costs, we have received scholarships every semester. God has always provided for us through this journey and He has done so mainly through the generosity of His people. Cost should never keep anyone from getting the education they need for ministry or really any other field. There is always a way to get training, it may take longer and require more effort and sacrifice but it can be done.
Glad to read it! This is my first year in seminary, although I didn’t go with a Southern Baptist one. The tuition was still a bit higher than I could afford so I took a less expensive alternative, Reformed Baptist Seminary. It’s not accredited, but although I have more than enough undergraduate hours, I don’t have a Bachelor’s degree. I can at least fill in the gaps in my theological education and apply it to missions and pulpit supply.
Well I can tell you that I recently started on a Bachelor in Business Administration degree through an online program. This degree program is fully accredited and will cost about 10% of what a traditional degree would cost me. Bricks and mortar education is definitely in trouble if this kind of thing spreads, and I personally think that’s a good thing.
I don’t mean to be a stick in the mud, and I recognize something needs to change for both the benefit of those unable to travel or move for extended periods as well as the survival of brick-and-mortar institutions. However, I have some misgivings about on-line education, regardless of who it is from. For one thing, on-line prevents any peer learning situations, simply because you have little or no interaction with others taking the same course. And another–and this is more “iffy” to me as I do not know if it applies–but with on-line courses, is it possible to have discussions and ask questions of the professor? Again, like in peer-learning situations, I got more out of give-and-take discussions with professors than I did from straight lectures. It seems to me that on-line courses must, of necessity, be straight lecture situations. If someone “in the know” would address this, I would appreciate it.
John
John, that’s an important concern. I don’t know how the SBC seminaries do it. At RBS there is an online site for organizing the courses that includes contact information for the dean and professors as well as a way to discuss things with fellow students either in general or step-by step. In other words, if I have a question about the material in a lecture, the page in the class that has the lecture has an area for asking questions that can be answered by other students, the dean, and the professor. There is also the requirement of a mentor who also serves as proctor. The minister of education at my church serves as my mentor.
John
I am not in the know, however, I would like to comment. You raise a good point. Living in married seminary housing at SWBTS and being on campus was a life changer for me. I loved it and wish everyone could have the experience I had.
Having said that there is still the issue of those who cannot attend. So that begs the question, is on campus training dead?
John
Online education has really come a long way. If you are imagining some of the older distance learning like correspondence courses, the offerings from NOBTS are not anything like that. while you don’t have the face to face interaction of the classroom NOBTS and many other institution use BlackBoard for online and even traditional classroom classes. Part of BlackBoard is a discussion forum not unlike this online forum. Students have online discussions and interaction as well as opportunity to interact with the professors. Most of the younger students (I am from the correspondence course era) find these forum to be comfortable since it is one of their main forms of communicating for other areas of life.
Some of the professors are better than others at generating discussion and utilizing the format to its full potential but I have seen even that improve as the school has embraced the format. Like it or not this is the direction that secondary education is heading especially when you look at second life training or second careers.
Now personally, I enjoy the in class offerings more than online but I find the convenience of being able to open a class when I have time to be very compelling.
John
I missed the part about peer learning and give and take. From my experience I would say that online learning can actually enhance this aspect of learning and here is why I think that. In the classroom there are usually atleast two types of students those who will interact verbally in the give and take and those who for whatever reason will not interact. Often times as the weeks go on those who interact easily tend to dominate the little bit of time that is available and the majority of the class is either observing the give and take or more than likely checking email and facebook or SBC Voices :).
With the online forums there is no time limit to a discussion, some of the threads go on all semester long. Some discussions solicit lots of input and others very little but usually every thread started by the professor must receive some form of input from each student and then each student must respond to the comments of one or two classmates. I have never been in any class where there was enough time for that much discussion.
Don’t get me wrong, I think i understand what you are saying about the superiority of in the class learning I just think it is more generational than anything else. This format is really more for current generations and not mine. They are used to communicating this way, I find it difficult at times and have to work harder to meet those commenting requirements whereas in the classroom I have no problem with class participation.
Mitch, let me add to your argument:
While I would probably prefer classroom learning, it’s not possible from where I am: employed full-time with a family to support, and a growing ministry among my family to maintain.
But you are spot on about classroom discussions. I’m an introvert and never got to discuss much during class. Class discussions are dominated by people who process things quickly by talking. I could usually get homework done during class discussion while I paid attention to the discussion others were having. So really, online classwork is not much different.
Dean Stewart mentioned that student discussions often take place after class. I don’t remember actually having any of those unless a student was really struggling, needed help and recognized that I was worth asking for it. I’m not the kind of guy who ever got invited to the coffee shop or wherever by fellow classmates to discuss the class material, and no one ever came when I invited them, so I usually studied alone. Once again, online isn’t that much different for my experience.
I believe that much of the peer learning takes place out of the classroom setting. I know for me few classes were Socratic in nature. The interaction was limited by the profs. However, before and after the classroom we students studied together, went to dinner together and rode together. All of these things prepared me. This will be missed by online students for sure but can compensated for in some ways.
Online classes now mandate discussions between students using Blackboard. They have to sit and share thoughts on the assigned material. In someways there will be more discussion on classroom topics between students than in a normal classroom setting for the topics are mandated.
Exactly right Dean,
The University that I am attending uses Moodle instead of Blackboard but there is mandatory participation in weekly discussions and even peer assessments due every week.
Brother John,
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with what you said about peer learning. In fact, the university that I am now attending is very heavy of peer learning and assessment. I think online enhances it.
I am not really taking a position in this for anyone to disagree with me. I shared some concerns I have and asked for input.
BTW, our youth minister teaches in an on-line program with a university. She shares the same concerns, and has told the school as much. I do not know know how her program compares with any others that make provision for peer learning or for interaction with professors though.
John
John,
You ask some very good questions. I am an adjunct instructor for the online program at Liberty. I currently have oversight for undergraduate classes in evangelism and theology to which the school assigns me. The lectures are video driven and as a result that professor cannot be available for students in 50 or so classes per term. Thus the reason for my position (and many other men and women who do the same).
I am responsible for the interaction with every student in my 2-3 classes each 8 week term. I interact with them directly via email, SKYPE, Discussion Board and Lync. I am not in a geographic location where phone calls are reasonable (price and time constraints). I have been doing this for Liberty for several years and as a result it has been a help for me as a full-time pastor. It has help sharpen my interaction skills with my congregation. I have been a little to caustic at times in the past.
Liberty has somewhere around 100,000 online students. Of the many great advantages for these students (many are military serving overseas), the school also benefits. The school does not have to provide housing, meal services campus presence insurance… While at the same time giving the student a high quality education.
Lastly, as an adjunct, I am reviewed often and have work for the school I must complete to stay abreast of my class subjects. The accountability factor for the adjunct is very high. I will have two classes in evangelism starting Monday. I will have between the two classes about 55 students. Not only does the school hold me accountable, the students also have opportunity at the end of each class to submit a survey of their experience and about 1/2 of that survey is directed towards the adjunct, the other 1/2 is directed towards the class content.
I hope that helps a little with understanding the online life. Id you have any questions specifically, please let me know.
I’d like to learn more about the costs. Do seminaries try and equalize online and resident tuition even though the online FTEs don’t “count” towards the CP funding? I hate to say it but if our seminaries think that there is tuition revenue streams in online learning, they will do it out of self preservation.
I’m with fellow old codger DL in thinking that an online degree lacks some of the intangible value that resident degree has. Do we disincentivize resident learning and go full bore after total online degrees for those who want them? Or, do we offer an incentive for resident work and honest-to-goodness classrooms with talking heads and warm bodies because we think the peer and student-prof interaction is indispensable to a proper theological education?
Brave new world…
SEBTS charges the same hourly rate whether a course is offered on campus, at an extension center, or online. No technology fee surcharge.
TRB
William, I don’t know if any of the high and mighty trustees have time to respond but I will be glad to share an opinion as an NOBTS trustee. First allow me to be clear that I love all SBC seminaries and see them as mine not just NOBTS.
In my opinion the tuition discount for online students will take place when it benefits Southern and SWBTS. The financial formula we use is slanted against off campus credit hours. Any off-campus credit hours exceeding 14% of the on-campus credit hours are excluded from funding. Four of the seminaries have so few off-campus students that they never exceed that 14% limitation. Golden Gate and New Orleans have off-campus credit hours that exceed that limitation every year, meaning only a portion of those FTEs are funded by CP.
When SBTS and SWBTS have off campus hours that exceed 14% of their on campus hours they will push for the change. Does anyone question if Drs Mohler and Patterson would be denied if they sought this change?
As for as the quality of education online, it has pros and cons. It is true the community discussions and interaction of the classroom are missing. However, the programs are 100% text driven and imo have to produce better readers than traditional settings normally produce.
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
I hear state level people complain about the seminaries bleeding off undergrad students from the colleges. It’s a messy situation.
William, you can probably enlighten us on this topic but wasn’t there a gentlemen’s agreement that state Baptist colleges would stay out of the graduate school business and the seminaries would stay out of the undergraduate? Didn’t the state colleges (Baylor) break this gentlemen ‘s agreement?
I know the state Baptist colleges are lacking CRV students. I have heard my alma mater recently moved the ministerial education/Biblical studies program under the church music program because of dwinding #’s. I can’t imagine many preacher boys will be excited about having a degree from the school of music.
The word here is that state colleges started grad programs after some of the seminaries went after the undergrad market. I think one of the state schools here is working on an MDiv program I think.
I heard a state leader say that seminary undergrad programs are a “very big problem.”
William T
For the life of me I cannot understand that kind of competitive attitude between college and seminary. It is redundant, not cost effective, and a lose lose situation.
While I don’t agree I comprehend the Baylor situation in that they felt the need to offer an alternative theological position. Anything other than this is simply trying to be bigger regardless of the issues involved.
DL, it’s about the revenue stream and attendant jobs and power that flows from that. You can bet that seminaries, colleges, state conventions, leaders and trustees at all levels have an incentive to preserve their status.
My big picture question is how the SBC can effectively maintain six seminaries, all with costly real estate plants, separate faculties, admin and support structures as seminary education is decoupled from physical geography?
GGBTS had fabulously valuable real estate they could sell. SBTS, SEBTS, and SWBTS are strong schools with a solid base of support. NOBTS less so and MBTS even less so.
If Liberty has online enrollment approaching 100k, about 8 times resident enrollment, and if a degree from L is seen in the SBC as an acceptable route to SBC pastoral, missions, and other careers, how long will we keep six seminary plants and structures? How long should we?
…just my wild conjecture about the whole system.
Plodder, I do not debate six seminaries may not be in the distant future of the SBC. Before we have the discussion of retractions I would like to know what criteria you use to determine the support base of our seminaries, is this merely your perspective or are you using endowment figures or enrollment figures?
William T
Your observations are solid and I agree. We have a very poor business model when it comes to seminaries especially.
When I said i did not understand I was talking more from a spiritual level. With the need for mission dollars for planting and foreign work the “grab all you can get” mentality is so self serving. That is what It seems to me is happening.
I know this isn’t valid for Baylor, because SWBTS is in the same state and not too far up the road, but I know we’ve kicked around the idea of graduate education from either Ouachita or Williams, or some partnership of both, here in Arkansas for years to wrestle with “seminary brain drain.”
The stats I remember are about 20 years old, so they’re not really valid at this point, but something like 2 out of 3 ministers who left Arkansas for seminary weren’t coming back. One can spiritualize that all you want to and say “God told them to go elsewhere…” but somehow God was telling most of them to stay within a few hundred miles of their seminary, at least for a decade or so.
We still haven’t acted on it–SWBTS has been consistent with the extension center in Little Rock, Mid-America (though not “officially” Southern Baptist) has served our state fairly well, with many good folks going only to Memphis, serving in Arkansas, and then going back west across Arkansas.
But that’s the other reason some of the state schools looked at such programs. If there wasn’t a seminary in-state and they thought it was better, long-term, to try and keep folks inside the borders.
I’ve done seminary on-campus, in 1-week seminars, and online. Online has great potential but you can lack for the fellowship and unofficial moments that help you grow.
On-campus is challenged by the shift in employment opportunities generally and the fact that many students come in with a level of financial need that can’t be met with short hours/low pay jobs. Students end up trying to work full-time plus, and go to school at a full-time clip, and it doesn’t work out.
I think the future of theological education needs to find a hybrid with distance/online for some classes, classroom structures for some, and church-sponsored internships that provide for the living of the student while giving them work in the ministry to do. I’m not sure how it would really look–or if we can afford to set it up.
The other thing is that there is, and will be, a static or diminishing sum of CP money to divvy up among the Six. I doesn’t matter to me how that is done, though it matters to them.
SEBTS charges the same hourly rate whether a course is offered on campus, at an extension center, or online. No technology fee surcharge.
TRB
Many if not most of the on-line guys are pastoring already. As on line grows and becomes more “standard” it could be that churches would scholarship their pastor at least the amount of the on campus discount. Two of the churches I pastored had scholarship programs for preacher boys going to college or seminary. The problem with this would be the temptation to take that amount from the churches’ CP giving. I faced that in one church with the scholarship program. Admittedly I have no idea if this was the exception or if other churches dealt with that.
That brings me to a related question. When I went to Okla. Bapt. Univ. the Okla. Convention provided 1/2 of the tuition for ministerial students. How many other states do this? Who knows if Okla. still does this? Man, what a blessing that was.
As on line continues to grow and perhaps dominate how would that affect a man’s desire to be a professor/scholar? Would that enhance or diminish the desire? Is that even a valid question?
I love the teaching I do at the college level, I do not know if I would be interested in doing on line stuff.
What do you think?
“I love the teaching I do at the college level, I do not know if I would be interested in doing on line stuff.”
I love the adjuncting (is that even a real word?) I do for Liberty. I would love one day if the Lord allowed to end my career as a professor at a Christian school. This would be another 15+ years down the road. If my being an adjunct help me with that, then great. The benefits of doing adjunct work are different between the instructors. Some are very rigid, while others are extremely gracious. I hope I am settled some where in the middle of those extremes. My philosophy as an adjunct is to be fair to the student and true to the school. My IM seems to like this approach.
Wow. I’m overwhelmed by the positive response so far. I’ve taken such a long break from blogging, I wasn’t sure how this would pan out.
I think the additional costs for online classes made sense back in the early 2000s, but a technology fee for each class is a bit ridiculous now that most of the startup costs are out of the way. Beyond that, Southern has never charged me anything more than the SBC rate, so I’m a bit surprised that other seminaries do. That’s definitely worth checking into.
I’ll have to do a follow up post about the dynamics of online learning. I’ve completed 42 credits (14 classes), so I’ve had quite a bit of experience to draw on.
Andrew,
That is excellent news for lots of folks. Improvements in technology and digital workflows are a great thing!
Congratulations on your achievements!
Well I needed to check the latest catalog to be sure but I was right. Here at NOBTS there is an $85.00 per credit hour internet program fee for online classes. What this means is that a 3hr online class costs $600.00 in tuition plus $255.00 in program fees. One thing that has changed as far as I can remember is that tuition itself is the same as a regular class which was not the case when I started taking classes in 2007. It is great that the tuition is the same but again remember that online classes do not count toward full-time enrollment both for students and the school. What this means is if you are a student here on campus and need to maintain full-time status for scholarships or some other reason but are taking some online classes, the hours for the online classes do not count toward your full-time status.
One other argument in favor of online classes is that I know of several student couples who are both students. some of them take turns attending traditional classes and online classes depending on who has the best paying/most flexible job.
Just for comparison sake, you guys that are taking online classes from the other schools, how much is the tuition and any additional fees?
For an M.Div at Southern, it costs $254.00 per credit hour plus a $250.00 internet fee. I take one class per semester, so I’d pay $1,012 out of pocket this semester, plus books.
Since I’m taking a two-day modular class (basically an online class plus two full days of lectures on campus), I won’t have to pay the internet fee. One night at the Legacy Hotel on campus costs about $85, gas comes out to about $35, and I might spend $60 on food, so that leaves me with about $942 out of pocket, plus books and two days of vacation. If I lived any further away or if I had to stay any longer, it would cost more to be on campus.
Well if it’s any consolation this is isn’t just happening to the SBC educational system. This is a worldwide educational shift. I for one am glad that we are getting away from the bricks and mortar form of education for a variety of reasons. 1. Bricks and mortar cost money and that cost is passed on to the student. 2. You don’t have to relocate with online education. 3. Brick and Mortar institutions are often distracted with a lot of other things besides education. 4. No more working all of the time and having to make a 7 am class and then piles of work outside of class. 5. No commute to school. I could go on and on.
John
You have delineated a number of good reasons for on line education. I agree with them completely. However it does not have to be an either or situation. We can have both. There are good reasons for on campus education and that should and I am sure will continue to be an option. For me on campus was the best three years of my life as I have said. Being in the academic environment for 7 years (college and seminary) changed me and challenged me in a way that on line cannot. I am just saying we need both, let the student decide. Those who want on line should have that opportunity. Those who want on campus should have that opportunity. We are developing a win win situation. We just need to do it more effectively from the standpoint of total cost.
I certain can’t argue with your very valid points. Like you, I was definitely influenced and impacted in a very profound way in my on campus years. Having said this though I would throw out one thing to consider. Brick and mortar universities actually drive up the cost of online education. In other words, if it is a brick and mortar university or seminary providing the online courses the cost of the bricks and mortar is passed on to the online student as well.
Dean, in regard to funding the seminaries divide about 22% of the CP money received by the Xcomm and each school’s share depends in part on FTE counts. [I’m going from memory on the percentage] There isn’t a greater slice of the CP pie available, so
Each school has separate funding in the form of tuition and fees, donations, and investment (maybe others) which means that the dependence on CP funds varies at each school.
Someone has probably put all this together from the SBC annual…I hven’t done it.