I would interview him as a pastor to the whole church. He is a pastor, with a role within the body to youth, but he is still a pastor to the church as a whole. So, I would treat him like a pastor, not a sub-pastor employee that works with teens. You know what I mean? I would ask about how he integrates specific ministry (youth) with the general ministry to the church. How it “fits in” with the overall vision/ministry of the church. I would ask how he seeks to minister to parents and encourage them to disciple their… Read more »
Great suggestions. Thanks, Jason. You’re so right that youth ministry needs to be integrated within the overall ministry of the church. Future plans are also important. He may want MY job! And “success” in ministry is worth exploring since we all know the when the honeymoon is over, those days are going to come when we need to be grounded in our calling and liberated from the success syndrome. Thanks so much!
I would say it’s OK not to interview him “as a pastor.” It depends on whether he is qualified to be an elder/pastor. Many youth ministers are gifted and will one day be pastors, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be “pastors” just yet.
That said, he shouldn’t be treated like a hired-hand either! Most youth ministers want to learn, and a good pastors will mentor and invest in them as they serve. In my experience, that has been so important.
I’m not 100% sure how I would phrase a question of this sort but I would like to know whether a youth minister feels that he is the primary disciple maker or teens or whether he views mom/dad as the primary disciple maker. This will reveal a ton.
You can probably discern the answer to this from your question #3, but I’d consider formulating a more pointed question to this end.
Mike, great answer! Both you and Jason are persuading me to ask a little more about the role of parents in the spiritual formation of their youth and the role of the youth minister in equipping those parents. I will be more direct about this topic. Thanks!
Greg Wentz
9 years ago
Don’t hire a “youth” minister. Youth ministry over the past 30 some years has lead to a 96% failure rate. By thier 20th birthday 96% have left the faith. I believe that is from Barna research.
Read “Rite of Passage for the Home and Church” by D. Kevin Brown. (you can find it on amazon)
Read his blog at dkevinbrown.wordpress.com
Thanks, Greg. Voddie Baucham and others have also advocated a more family oriented model for ministry which may be worth considering. However, I have to say, I think it would be easier to implement such an approach in a new church start rather than in the traditional, established church where I serve. The expectation really is that we “call” a minister whose primary responsibility will be in the area of youth. Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll definitely check out the blog.
MPBC was traditional in youth ministry thinking as well for many years. Pastor Kevin lead the way to change. You can read about it in his book. The statistics may or may not be correct. I was just quoting reserarch done by someone else. If it is only 5o would you be satisfied if your car only worked 50% of the time? Just some thoughts.
96% of kids involved in youth ministry have left the faith by their 20th birthday?
That is just not true. I don’t care if it comes from Barna, Voddie Baucham, Josh McDowell or whoever. There is no way that that is right. That would mean that 96% of the children of Christian families are renouncing the faith by the time they are 20!
The studies I have seen say anywhere between 70% and 90%…of course you would have to look at the specifics of the studies to see how they developed those numbers.
I’m not sure where he got 96% from…but I think anyone thinking through the issue still recognizes that the number, whatever it is, is ridiculously (even oddly) high.
It’s failing because as youth, they’re given all kinds of opportunities to serve and to LEAD other youth. They hit twenty years of age and told to go sit in the pew and wait until their fifty for any opportunities to lead and serve, unless they go off to become doctors and lawyers with paychecks, then they get pushed to the head of the line.
Those statistics are WAY overblown because most research is only tracking by denomination and denominational records are skewed towards the high end any way. Case in point I know of 5 different para-church Next- gen ministries affiliated with SBC that report the number salvations their ministry sees each year to the SBC sounds correct and then you realize that those salvations are also being reported by the associations that those para-church ministries are supported by and by the churches that those children and teens attend. By the end of it all we have recorded 3-5 times the number of salvations… Read more »
Terrific question, Brent. It’s always interesting to see how many weeks, months or years the person has to go back before they can recall an evangelistic encounter. It will also be interesting to explore the approach they used and how they handled the response of the other person. Thanks!!
Rick, As to #4 on doctrine, I would ask several open-ended questions on specific doctrinal issues (view of Scripture, Spiritual gifts, etc.) and let him fill in the blanks. As it is, he can easily answer “yes” to your question, but you may not have as clear an idea about what he believes on certain issues. Also, I would assume that the Youth Pastor will be working alongside you and that you will have some type of supervisory role with him. Ask what how he views the role of Senior Pastor, how he takes/gives direction/, what is a leader, and… Read more »
I second Howell’s paragraph about discussing working with the Senior Pastor. Not only will it help you get a feel for whether he “fits”, but you will also have some guidance for what the eventual person is expecting from you leadership-wise.
Nice reminder about the open-ended questions. And you’re right about the staff relationship issue. It’s very important that we’re on the same page there. Thanks!
Christiane
9 years ago
I was wondering, concerning this question . . .
‘5. Will you allow us to conduct a standard background check?’
would you not screen people thoroughly BEFORE they reach the interview stage? I mean most school districts won’t even hire maintenance people without a background check, much less anyone allowed to interact with students in any capacity.
Due to the expense, a lot of churches wait until they’re down to a couple of candidates and then run the background check.
Typically, you ask that question to see the response as much as to get permission—I’d never add staff that refused to allow it. Sometimes the response is instructive: do they hesitate? Do they get defensive? Do they start adding up years to see if their record is clear? Especially a youth ministry person is likely to be driving, so you need both a background check, a criminal check, and a driving record.
From experiences as a youth minister: How are you going to handle when someone complains to you about the pastor of the church?
Because I found myself stuck in the middle and had no clue how to handle it. If the question had been asked, I would have at least pre-thought! Plus, that allows you to express what you expect in that situation, which will help your candidate know a little about leadership style and systems in the church. That builds towards good fit.
Great question, Doug. It WILL happen so we are better off discussing it ahead of time. Any ideas based on your experience? I think I would suggest: (1) acknowledge their concern without adding support for it, (2) encourage them to talk with me about any issues so I might help resolve them, and (3) remind them not to gab to the whole fellowship about something if they haven’t brought it to me first. Is that a start?
Those are good starts. What floored me was one Sunday, filling in for the pastor who was out due to his mother-in-law being near heaven from cancer, a group of men catching me after church and telling me that I was such a good preacher that next business meeting they were going to move that the pastor be fired and I become the pastor. I had no idea what to say or how to handle it. So, I told them 1 good sermon didn’t mean I was ready to be a pastor and they shouldn’t do that. Didn’t know what… Read more »
Don’t ask about KINDS of music and authors. Ask for SPECIFIC musicians/groups and authors. Kinds is overly general. That way if the committee is unfamiliar with them they can find out more.
Rick I have been working with teens since I graduated high school and that amounts to almost thirteen years. I want to be respectful but also honest in my response to your questions. Although I am not sure how to say it tactfully. As I read your questions I groaned. I have answered them over and over again in interviews all over the southeast. I have been in interviews where we have had some great discussions and some that I walked out of thinking that i could have answered the questions in an email. What you want when hiring a… Read more »
Rick
9 years ago
Jason,
Good, helpful input. I agree the questions are stated a little generically. They need to emphasize passion for youth, total love for Jesus, and the other qualities you mentioned more than just the same routine interview questions anyone would expect. That’s really what the “Why youth ministry” question was aiming at but I can see how a more experienced YM might find that condescending. Thanks for the suggestions.
Another addition is this: find a way to determine what relationship he expects with the the pastor. Is he looking for a friend, a mentor, a father-figure, or an adversary? Depending on how long he’s been in youth ministry and where he’s been, he may expect that the pastor will be his biggest roadblock. He may also expect the pastor to be his great ministry mentor—and are you up for that? Can you meet those expectations?
Just a few more thoughts.
Max
9 years ago
Regardless of ministry position (youth pastor or otherwise), 9Marks suggests that “a church should ask at least four types of questions of any potential pastor: theological, philosophy of ministry, practical, and personal.” http://www.9marks.org/answers/what-kind-questions-should-church-ask-pastoral-candidate I found their post on this addresses primary issues for any church considering new staff, with the questions not necessarily linked to a particular theological leaning. The questions are posed in such a way to provide an astute search committee with a wealth of insight about the candidate in front of them. Heartaches could have been avoided by certain churches in my area if these questions were… Read more »
Peaches
9 years ago
Ask more questions about what the prospective minister did, not so much about what he “would do”. You learn more from past behavior, choices and decison processes than from predictions of how he would handle things.
If he has had any prior experience working with youth there is one question that I would seek to fully define and one other that must be asked. Concerning question #6 I would ask for him to describe how his wife HAS helped serve with him. I have seen to many churches expect to hire a two-for-one deal and the wife has no interest in serving in any way. I have also seen wives of pastors and youth pastors who desired to serve in a different area of church ministry than the church wanted them to serve. Because of the… Read more »
Jon McFarling
9 years ago
I like the general tone of most of the questions but I agree with Jason that some more detailed questions would be nice. I was asked many the same questions in many interviews and some of them required me to ask questions to clarify what they were getting at. So in my opinion the more direct and detailed the questions the better. That way there are no misunderstandings or feelings of hidden agendas. There are a couple of questions here that I find interesting though the first is question 10. I listen to a variety of genres some secular some… Read more »
Jon, Great input. Regarding music and books, I primarily had Christian authors and singers in mind. The point is to discern spiritual and theological influences and look into their soul a bit to see what really makes them tick. Most secular music, if morally neutral in terms of lyrics, would not be a turn off. On the other hand, if he loves Joel Osteen and “Your Best Life Now” then I’m certain we can’t afford him. Sorry if the question about a spouse was offensive in any way. I did not intend that. If the candidate is single, we’ll skip… Read more »
I would interview him as a pastor to the whole church. He is a pastor, with a role within the body to youth, but he is still a pastor to the church as a whole. So, I would treat him like a pastor, not a sub-pastor employee that works with teens. You know what I mean? I would ask about how he integrates specific ministry (youth) with the general ministry to the church. How it “fits in” with the overall vision/ministry of the church. I would ask how he seeks to minister to parents and encourage them to disciple their… Read more »
Great suggestions. Thanks, Jason. You’re so right that youth ministry needs to be integrated within the overall ministry of the church. Future plans are also important. He may want MY job! And “success” in ministry is worth exploring since we all know the when the honeymoon is over, those days are going to come when we need to be grounded in our calling and liberated from the success syndrome. Thanks so much!
I would say it’s OK not to interview him “as a pastor.” It depends on whether he is qualified to be an elder/pastor. Many youth ministers are gifted and will one day be pastors, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be “pastors” just yet.
That said, he shouldn’t be treated like a hired-hand either! Most youth ministers want to learn, and a good pastors will mentor and invest in them as they serve. In my experience, that has been so important.
I’m not 100% sure how I would phrase a question of this sort but I would like to know whether a youth minister feels that he is the primary disciple maker or teens or whether he views mom/dad as the primary disciple maker. This will reveal a ton.
You can probably discern the answer to this from your question #3, but I’d consider formulating a more pointed question to this end.
“disciple maker OF teens” not “or teens”
Mike, great answer! Both you and Jason are persuading me to ask a little more about the role of parents in the spiritual formation of their youth and the role of the youth minister in equipping those parents. I will be more direct about this topic. Thanks!
Don’t hire a “youth” minister. Youth ministry over the past 30 some years has lead to a 96% failure rate. By thier 20th birthday 96% have left the faith. I believe that is from Barna research.
Read “Rite of Passage for the Home and Church” by D. Kevin Brown. (you can find it on amazon)
Read his blog at dkevinbrown.wordpress.com
Thanks, Greg. Voddie Baucham and others have also advocated a more family oriented model for ministry which may be worth considering. However, I have to say, I think it would be easier to implement such an approach in a new church start rather than in the traditional, established church where I serve. The expectation really is that we “call” a minister whose primary responsibility will be in the area of youth. Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll definitely check out the blog.
MPBC was traditional in youth ministry thinking as well for many years. Pastor Kevin lead the way to change. You can read about it in his book. The statistics may or may not be correct. I was just quoting reserarch done by someone else. If it is only 5o would you be satisfied if your car only worked 50% of the time? Just some thoughts.
Greg,
96% of kids involved in youth ministry have left the faith by their 20th birthday?
That is just not true. I don’t care if it comes from Barna, Voddie Baucham, Josh McDowell or whoever. There is no way that that is right. That would mean that 96% of the children of Christian families are renouncing the faith by the time they are 20!
Think about it.
96% of statistics are made up on the spot to make a point.
The studies I have seen say anywhere between 70% and 90%…of course you would have to look at the specifics of the studies to see how they developed those numbers.
I’m not sure where he got 96% from…but I think anyone thinking through the issue still recognizes that the number, whatever it is, is ridiculously (even oddly) high.
It’s failing because as youth, they’re given all kinds of opportunities to serve and to LEAD other youth. They hit twenty years of age and told to go sit in the pew and wait until their fifty for any opportunities to lead and serve, unless they go off to become doctors and lawyers with paychecks, then they get pushed to the head of the line.
Those statistics are WAY overblown because most research is only tracking by denomination and denominational records are skewed towards the high end any way. Case in point I know of 5 different para-church Next- gen ministries affiliated with SBC that report the number salvations their ministry sees each year to the SBC sounds correct and then you realize that those salvations are also being reported by the associations that those para-church ministries are supported by and by the churches that those children and teens attend. By the end of it all we have recorded 3-5 times the number of salvations… Read more »
That very well may be the case. You would have to look at the individual study to see their criteria.
I wouldn’t write off the studies without looking at their process of evaluating data.
Tell me about the last time you shared the gospel with someone?
Terrific question, Brent. It’s always interesting to see how many weeks, months or years the person has to go back before they can recall an evangelistic encounter. It will also be interesting to explore the approach they used and how they handled the response of the other person. Thanks!!
Rick, As to #4 on doctrine, I would ask several open-ended questions on specific doctrinal issues (view of Scripture, Spiritual gifts, etc.) and let him fill in the blanks. As it is, he can easily answer “yes” to your question, but you may not have as clear an idea about what he believes on certain issues. Also, I would assume that the Youth Pastor will be working alongside you and that you will have some type of supervisory role with him. Ask what how he views the role of Senior Pastor, how he takes/gives direction/, what is a leader, and… Read more »
I second Howell’s paragraph about discussing working with the Senior Pastor. Not only will it help you get a feel for whether he “fits”, but you will also have some guidance for what the eventual person is expecting from you leadership-wise.
Josh, well said and thanks.
Nice reminder about the open-ended questions. And you’re right about the staff relationship issue. It’s very important that we’re on the same page there. Thanks!
I was wondering, concerning this question . . .
‘5. Will you allow us to conduct a standard background check?’
would you not screen people thoroughly BEFORE they reach the interview stage? I mean most school districts won’t even hire maintenance people without a background check, much less anyone allowed to interact with students in any capacity.
Background checks are SOP for hiring now. R
Due to the expense, a lot of churches wait until they’re down to a couple of candidates and then run the background check.
Typically, you ask that question to see the response as much as to get permission—I’d never add staff that refused to allow it. Sometimes the response is instructive: do they hesitate? Do they get defensive? Do they start adding up years to see if their record is clear? Especially a youth ministry person is likely to be driving, so you need both a background check, a criminal check, and a driving record.
From experiences as a youth minister: How are you going to handle when someone complains to you about the pastor of the church?
Because I found myself stuck in the middle and had no clue how to handle it. If the question had been asked, I would have at least pre-thought! Plus, that allows you to express what you expect in that situation, which will help your candidate know a little about leadership style and systems in the church. That builds towards good fit.
Great question, Doug. It WILL happen so we are better off discussing it ahead of time. Any ideas based on your experience? I think I would suggest: (1) acknowledge their concern without adding support for it, (2) encourage them to talk with me about any issues so I might help resolve them, and (3) remind them not to gab to the whole fellowship about something if they haven’t brought it to me first. Is that a start?
Those are good starts. What floored me was one Sunday, filling in for the pastor who was out due to his mother-in-law being near heaven from cancer, a group of men catching me after church and telling me that I was such a good preacher that next business meeting they were going to move that the pastor be fired and I become the pastor. I had no idea what to say or how to handle it. So, I told them 1 good sermon didn’t mean I was ready to be a pastor and they shouldn’t do that. Didn’t know what… Read more »
You could ask if he’s a blogger, a Calvinist, owns bunny slippers….
But that could be dangerous 🙂
Does he live with his mother? Own a housecoat? Will he promise never to rap a motion on the floor of the SBC?
Tell him that rapping motions is actually standard form—it will keep life interesting.
Don’t ask about KINDS of music and authors. Ask for SPECIFIC musicians/groups and authors. Kinds is overly general. That way if the committee is unfamiliar with them they can find out more.
Thanks, John. You’re right–the actual names will tell us what we need to know.
Rick I have been working with teens since I graduated high school and that amounts to almost thirteen years. I want to be respectful but also honest in my response to your questions. Although I am not sure how to say it tactfully. As I read your questions I groaned. I have answered them over and over again in interviews all over the southeast. I have been in interviews where we have had some great discussions and some that I walked out of thinking that i could have answered the questions in an email. What you want when hiring a… Read more »
Jason,
Good, helpful input. I agree the questions are stated a little generically. They need to emphasize passion for youth, total love for Jesus, and the other qualities you mentioned more than just the same routine interview questions anyone would expect. That’s really what the “Why youth ministry” question was aiming at but I can see how a more experienced YM might find that condescending. Thanks for the suggestions.
Another addition is this: find a way to determine what relationship he expects with the the pastor. Is he looking for a friend, a mentor, a father-figure, or an adversary? Depending on how long he’s been in youth ministry and where he’s been, he may expect that the pastor will be his biggest roadblock. He may also expect the pastor to be his great ministry mentor—and are you up for that? Can you meet those expectations?
Just a few more thoughts.
Regardless of ministry position (youth pastor or otherwise), 9Marks suggests that “a church should ask at least four types of questions of any potential pastor: theological, philosophy of ministry, practical, and personal.” http://www.9marks.org/answers/what-kind-questions-should-church-ask-pastoral-candidate I found their post on this addresses primary issues for any church considering new staff, with the questions not necessarily linked to a particular theological leaning. The questions are posed in such a way to provide an astute search committee with a wealth of insight about the candidate in front of them. Heartaches could have been avoided by certain churches in my area if these questions were… Read more »
Ask more questions about what the prospective minister did, not so much about what he “would do”. You learn more from past behavior, choices and decison processes than from predictions of how he would handle things.
If he has had any prior experience working with youth there is one question that I would seek to fully define and one other that must be asked. Concerning question #6 I would ask for him to describe how his wife HAS helped serve with him. I have seen to many churches expect to hire a two-for-one deal and the wife has no interest in serving in any way. I have also seen wives of pastors and youth pastors who desired to serve in a different area of church ministry than the church wanted them to serve. Because of the… Read more »
I like the general tone of most of the questions but I agree with Jason that some more detailed questions would be nice. I was asked many the same questions in many interviews and some of them required me to ask questions to clarify what they were getting at. So in my opinion the more direct and detailed the questions the better. That way there are no misunderstandings or feelings of hidden agendas. There are a couple of questions here that I find interesting though the first is question 10. I listen to a variety of genres some secular some… Read more »
Jon, Great input. Regarding music and books, I primarily had Christian authors and singers in mind. The point is to discern spiritual and theological influences and look into their soul a bit to see what really makes them tick. Most secular music, if morally neutral in terms of lyrics, would not be a turn off. On the other hand, if he loves Joel Osteen and “Your Best Life Now” then I’m certain we can’t afford him. Sorry if the question about a spouse was offensive in any way. I did not intend that. If the candidate is single, we’ll skip… Read more »