Observations:
- If you are going to the mike, write your motion out.
- State your motion. This is not the time to speak to the motion.
- Go to the mike realizing your motion will get referred and likely be rejected. Reality.
No guarantee I got all of it.
1. Philip Bethancourt
Requested entities provide a progress report concerning their responses to abuse initiatives. he is with the ERLC.
Will likely get referred and adopted.
2. Wade Burleson
Amend IMB report to include full report on abuse made by outside firm.
Will be referred to IMB. Wade might try to get it on the docket.
3. Brent Epling
Add a special emphasis day to calendar for the global persecuted church.
Referred. Might get adopted.
4. Aaron collier
Seek funding for churches that need help dealing with sexual abuse issues.
Referred. Likely failure.
5. David Haynes
Motion for ERLC to study effects of birth control and determine if it causes abortions.
Referred.
6. Robert Anderson
To set aside a day in February to honor George Liele
Referred
7. Brad Cone.
Modernize initial stage of nomination process for boards and agencies.
Intriguing idea. Referred.
8. Leroy Fountain.
Requests a report of progress on the 10 recommendations on race adopted at the 2011 meeting.
I hope it passes. Probably referred.
9. Sarah Gregory
Asked for celebration of CR at next year’s meeting – 20th anniversary of BF&M 2000.
10. Morris Chapman
Requests EC to amend governing documents to strengthen fiscal accountability and transparency.
All for it. Not sure where it goes.
11. Matt Dunn
Motion about restoring Israel. If you understood it, feel free to enlighten us in the comments.
12. Dennis Golden
Amend governing documents to allow all senior pastors to vote electronically.
Let me count the ways this will get denied.
13. Dr.David Hobson
Funny guy.
Motion for NAMB to study feasibility of a program to help small churches with bivocation pastors fund a staff pastor.
Great idea. Not happening, unless they let us print money.
Good job reporting! That’s a lot to keep up with. Wade B has proclaimed in his blog today that SBC will be egalitarian in ten years… And he will help it on its way!
I will fight that every step of the way.
I may not stand with one side, but I am most definitely not egalitarian. Because i think the Bible opposes it.
I thought so Dave…
This is his actual statement – “Within a decade or two, what I say the authoritative Scriptures teach about gender equality will be considered biblical, normal, and eternal by the majority of Southern Baptists, and what I heard today will have gone away, just as the former racism of Southern Baptists went away 100 years ago.” This was in relation to the Ascol v McKissic debate.
It could be read as egalitarian I agree; but, you should get clarification from Wade Burleson Himself before stating something as fact.
Amy he stated in comment section that women and men both be able to serve in all capcities. He used such language more than once. From his total article and comments on the article it is pretty clear.
Here is one of Wade’s comments….
“I believe the Bible is the basis for an understanding of the FULL and UNQUALIFIED equality of men and women in every single area of life – except physical child-bearing. There is no biblical, spiritual, and functional difference between what a man or woman can do in the world, the home, and God’s Kingdom.”
Such a quote indicates why he was such a problem in places he served in the Convention. This is a blatant, heretical statement. There is so much “biblical, spiritual, and functional” differences between the sexes taught inthe Bible I don’t see how an intelligent person could make such a statement.
If the SBC moves even anywhere close to such a practice as that statement suggests, it won’t be able to fill up the back room of a typical Denny’s for the annual meeting.
All I said was ask him specifically.
Every year, half of the motions include a 2-3 minute preamble — I don’t know if people dont know what it means to not argue for their motion or if their just ignoring the instructions. You first words after identifying yourself and your church should be “I move…” and then make your motion and take a seat.
Also, I have yet to see a motion ever fail for lack of a second.
One today almost did.
This is 100% true. And I almost lost it when JD had to ask anyone to second that one motion to “speak louder.”
#6 was a request to honor George Lisle (or Liele; both are acceptable spellings). He was the first Baptist missionary from the US (before Adoniram Judson). He’s not well-known because he was a former slave (from Savannah, GA) who was granted his freedom and boarded a boat for Jamaica to proclaim the gospel and plant churches. Baptist churches in Jamaica exist because of Lisle. Here is a brief article for those who don’t know him: https://www.imb.org/2018/06/26/missionaries-you-should-know-george-liele/
Thank you.
I made an edit.
I had always seen it as “Liele.” Thanks for the info about the alternate spelling.
#11, that’s for the dispensationalists, right?
11 was to essentially hard-code one understanding of how Israel as a specific nation figures into the end-times into the BF&M.
No way that gets slotted into the BF&M. We aren’t even at a point of picking one (or excluding any one) millennial view, not going to see a definite “Israel will have a restored country ruling over all of the Old Testament boundaries” put into BFM.
And that’s not to judge the worthiness or lack thereof of that viewpoint. Just to state it’s not going into the BFM.
Would it be out of order to move: that all those who argue for their motions as they are being made are tarred and feathered?
Haha! That will be…referred… 🙂
So moved.
Having served close to forty years in bi-vocational pastorates, and having experienced firsthand the negative ways many bi-vocational pastors have been treated,, it will be a modern day miracle for any real help [as opposed to a lot of taking and PR] to be made available to the bi-vocational pastors. I’ve even been told by a former state convention “specialist” that any money spent on bi-vocational ministries would be a waste of CP money. I have too many other personal experiences to mention here and even if I did identify them, I would probably not be believed.
I still have people who, when they find out that I’m bi-vocational, ask me if I’m looking for a “real pastorate.” Or they’re amazed that I’m “still” bivo, as if it’s a sort of part-time job that you take while you’re learning how to be a pastor. And these are people who should know better.
I was just talking to a friend about this kind of thing. Keep being faithful.