It happened again a couple of days ago. Shock. Outrage. Twitter lit up because the men at Pulpit and Pen said something outrageous, racist, sexist, and homophobic. Honestly, who could have seen that coming? I am not going to repeat what they said. The shameful rhetoric would even rile some who share JD Hall’s views.
But it was not shocking that P&P did something like this. Shameful, unChristian, vicious attacks are the stock in trade of JD Hall and Seth Dunn and have been for years. There is no evidence of the Fruit of the Spirit or even the desire to display such – just the will to eviscerate anyone who disagrees.
If you read them, that is what you will get.
Why would you read them? Does Pulpit and Pen build up the Body of Christ? No. Does it lift up the name of Jesus? No, regularly it sullies the name of Christ. Does it do anything good for the kingdom of God? No, it is a cancer in the Body of Christ.
Then, why do you read it? Why do you follow P&P on Twitter? Why do you interact with them, with JD or Seth on Facebook? The word of God commands us to separate from such divisive, destructive people.
Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning. Titus 3:10
They have been warned 2000 times. The time for warning has passed. It is time for Christians who love the Lord, the word of God, and the Body of Christ to ACT!
1. BLOCK Pulpit and Pen on all social media platforms.
I did this long ago. It was for personal sanity, I will admit. JD had decided to personally attack me. I blocked him and all of his twitter terrorists. Some of them are now friends, as they realized that the pulpiteer way did not honor God.
But life is simply better if you don’t read Pulpit and Pen. There is NOTHING good that comes from that site. STOP reading it. It brings you no joy, no discernment. It is dishonest, twisted, dark, and evil. Just block them on Facebook, Twitter, and every other form of media. Don’t read the blog.
And for the love of all that is holy – don’t copy and paste links to me when they say stuff about me. If I cared about JD’s opinion of me, I’d follow the site.
I had several private interactions with JD, attempts to reconcile with him before I cut off all contact. He lives by his numbers and views himself and his site as successful because of how much traffic he generates with his clickbait posts. When you read him, it feeds his massive ego. When you interact with him, when you “call him out,” when you berate him, all of that just feeds the beast that is Pulpit and Pen. The only solution is to block the site and ignore it. Look at what was posted two days ago. 
It is the right thing to do and it is the best thing to do. Anything else feeds the troll.
2. PRAY for JD Hall and Seth Dunn (and any others involved there).
I don’t know at this point if it is just Jordan and Seth or if others write for the site, but we should pray that God will bring JD and Seth to repentance. I don’t know who is redeemed and who is not, so I don’t question people’s salvation, but there is nothing on the site that honors Christ or builds up his body. They are enemies of righteousness and we should pray that God would bring down Pulpit and Pen and would bring Seth and JD to repentance.
While you are at it, pray that Phil Johnson and others will stop encouraging P&P and have the discernment to stand against it.
3. Do not interact on social media with outrageous things Pulpit and Pen says.
When you interact with what they say, you are simply feeding the troll. You are doing exactly what they want. Pulpit and Pen drives traffic by saying outrageous things. Don’t take the bait. If you see something by Pulpit and Pen, just encourage whoever they are interacting with to join the movement and block them. The more Christ-loving people that block P&P the less the venom of the enemy spreads through the Body of Christ.
I know that when you see something outrageous, something evil, it provokes you and you want to say something back. We have been conditioned that “calling out evil” is an act of righteousness. But Pulpit and Pen doesn’t need to be called out. Their evil is manifest. They need to be put out. They need to be marginalized, ostracized, and excised from the Body of Christ so they can do no more harm. Isn’t the harm they have done enough?
It is time to do the right thing. BLOCK PULPIT & PEN, my friends – for the glory of God and the good of the kingdom.
Please hear me. This post isn’t about confronting P&P or JD or Seth. I gave up on that a long time ago. I wish some of those who are around them, men like Phil Johnson, would man-up and confront their sin but that is not my role or my purpose. My target is all those people who are horrified by the actions of P&P and retweet their tweets and talk about them online. That only feeds the troll. I long ago stopped engaging with JD or Seth and I do not intend to engage with anything they might say in… Read more »
I went to NOBTS with Seth and for a time, knew him well as he was completing his M Div. I confronted him during a theology class we shared over his temperament and sheer arrogance. I moved on once it became apparent that not only would he not receive criticism about his unsuitability for pastoral ministry, but that the professors at the Atlanta NOBTS Campus were not going to do a single thing whenever he was disrespectful in class – to include bullying behavior toward women and minorities. To this day, he is one of only two people I have… Read more »
That is sad
I’m almost afraid to ask this question, Matt, but when you say he was abusive toward women and minorities, what did his bullying consist of?
Can I suggest you take this private?
I am not going to let Seth defend himself here and it is not fair for such charges to be placed if he is not going to be able to defend himself.
Certainly, his online behavior has been shameful enough. You two are welcome to exchange emails if you desire and discuss this privately, but not on here.
kijeski@gmail.com
I can’t add to anything you have said here except yes, yes and yes. Call out evil. But when it gets to be the same people over and over again and especially for 9 or 10 years, it is time to give it up for your spiritual and emotional health. Someone tweeted that they are to Christians as Westboro was and that pretty well sums it up. If they go, another group will take their place using the Bible and the name of Jesus(which is worse than any other hate group without Christ). Stomp them out by not giving them… Read more »
I wish I’d thought of that comparison to Westboro. It would be in the post.
I just went to their website for the first time ever and I was disappointed in what I saw. Not anything Pen and Sword had said–rather what they were revealing. I don’t do Twitter so I am in the dark on the issue of which you speak. I know Dave Miller from this blog and I could not be more supportive and encouraged. I was informed by the things I saw and read on Pen and Sword, that they were simply revealing facts of the harsh realities among us in the churches of today. I will did deeper to see… Read more »
Is “Pen and Sword” distinct from “Pulpit and Pen”? I’m not familiar with either.
Sorry about that Paul. It was the Pulpit and Pen I visited. I did not see the tweet that is in discussion. So far, I have appreciated the Pulpit and Pen site for exposing and informing. The sorrow that I have is that the content on this site can be verified as true. (that which I have worked to verify)
This is the danger of writing an article like this. I don’t want to drive anyone who isn’t familiar with the sewage at P&P to read it. The greatest evil they do today is on twitter conversations. People who are familiar come to realize the site is evil and generally walk away. It is like a train wreck – it is hard to stop watching. But I would encourage you NOT to watch. For your own spiritual sanity.
Big time “thumbs up” to what Dave is saying here. Blogs like that had been something to which I had been drawn. “Discernment” was the stated objective, while destruction was the actual goal. Not healthy. Not biblical.
We should have the discernment to avoid the discernment bloggers. They never seem to discern anything good.
I read from a number of sources that I would not recommend or link. I don’t see the profit in blocking any of these. On balance, I’d probably not announce to the SBC world that I am blocking whatever site and everyone else should also. Counterproductive, I’d say.
Not that I disagree with Dave Miller on the toxicity of much of their stuff. I can pick and choose what interests me and I don’t think I’m a threat to be misled. Then again, I’m not much for following a bunch of things on FB or T anyway.
I am a proponent of reading that with which we disagree, but the evil done by P&P puts it in a different class.
Its certainly a difficult balance. Do you answer a fool in his folly or not? And certainly we have some Scriptural precedent for naming those who are harming the body of Christ. (We know of Alexander and Hymenaeus because of this).
The benefit in blocking is to not continue to get dragged back in to nonsense. It’s much as I would counsel someone struggling with pornography to remove themselves of the source of temptation. Our addiction to outrage porn likely needs a similar admonition.
bingo
William: I have a real problem with your statement. Maybe you don’t know the tweet being spoken of, but if you do and still believe this…..I find it very very troubling that you do.
I tend to agree that this post seems counter-productive, especially since Dave’s entire 3rd point is “don’t interact on social media…”. Given that Dave himself states that doing so “feeds the beast.”
Dave’s Post itself does what Dave’s point 3 tells us not to do. 🙂
Posting about someone is not the same as interacting with them, so no, Dave’s article is not self-defeating.
Amen.
Got the same advice a couple of years ago.
Best decision ever.