When you trust in wealth more than God, you move to a wealthy wicked city.- When you move to a wealthy, wicked city, you don’t quite fit in.
- When you don’t quite fit in, people want to molest your house guests.
- When people want to molest your house guests, God destroys your city with sulfur and fire.
- When God destroys your city with sulfur and fire, your daughters think it’s the end of the world.
- When your daughters think it’s the end of the world, they seduce you into siring your own grandchildren.
Don’t sire your own grandchildren. Don’t trust in wealth. Trust in God.
Inspired by those DirecTV commercials. Based on Genesis 13:10-13; 19:1-38
I absolutely love these commercials – this one is pretty good, too, Andrew.
That was great.
This was really good. I just preached on Sodom and Gomorrah last Sunday. I ended up focusing on Lot’s rescue as a picture of God’s rescue of us from judgment, but that’s because my sermon series is focused on the Christological fulfillment of the OT events. This would have been a great opening remark though.
I thought it was pretty good.
I haven’t seen the commercial… But I like the fact that Lot and his oldest daughter… And their son … Are part of the Messianic line. I hope you got that part into your sermon. It seems that so few Pastors do. Such a shame.
Many young women who’ve been raped by family members might get some healing grace from this knowledge.
Buckethead Baptist? That’s a great name.
Thanks…. and don’t even think about trying to grab the domain. I did that a long time ago.
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No, I didn’t emphasize the connection with the Messianic line, which is interesting. But actually I emphasized that this is the first time God rescues only those not directly in the line of the Seed of the Woman. He didn’t need the Moabites to fulfill His promise that the Seed of the Woman would crush the head of the Serpent. He only needed Abraham. He could have allowed Lot to perish, but instead chose to rescue Lot and his family, just as He does not have to rescue us from judgment, but choses to do so through Jesus Christ. That seemed to be the most important aspect of the story.
ohhhhh man… you said something there that clicked with me. I had already checked your site out and was encouraged by what I saw there… Now I’m gonna have to examine your site more closely and listen to your message now… KEWL!!
Your “seed of the woman” comment… Bro…. that encourages me… Respectfully… I’d have to tell you that you’re statement is incorrect… but the fact that you recognized the “seed of the woman” thread… Dude… that is RIGHT ON.
I have a feeling that you and I are going to need to talk…
Awww man… D.R. your sermons online are a month behind… and your iTunes feed is inactive… I can’t download anything from there…
come on brother… get with it!!!
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Yeah… we’re gonna need to talk…
Send me a note willya D.R.?
bucketheadbaptist@gmail.com
Don’t worry… I’m not gonna bite… I just have some stuff to share with you… let you mull over, and I’d like your feedback. I’d do it here… but “I’m writing a book”…
D. R. What excited me about your post and your sermon list I saw… Was your recognition on the specialness of the Seed of the Woman … And though you said that Lot and his daughters was the first time God rescued someone NOT in the lineage … Brother… That is NOT accurate. They ARE in the direct lineage.
You even preached on the fulfillment of a Prophecy that they would be… And you didn’t even recognize it.
Buckethead,
First, you can download the sermons. All you have to do is go to the sermon page and click on the title of the sermon – another page will open where you will find the hyperlink “Download” next to the streaming bar. Clicking on it should cause it to directly download to your computer.
Second, I am a bit behind since I maintain the site myself and sometimes I get bogged down. Currently I am waiting on the Tower of Babel sermon which didn’t get downloaded correctly. I have to wait for our Music Minister to convert it from his recorder to mp3. Hopefully, I will have time to do this in the next week or so.
Third, I am not sure what you are disagreeing with me about. Let me clarify. The direct line from the Seed of the Woman prophecy goes through Eve to Seth to Noah to Abraham and on from there. Ruth, the Moabite comes along later, which is interesting, but not necessary for the fulfillment of the prophecy. God doesn’t have to preserve the line of Lot, but rather He chooses to do so (thus my statement that this is the first time God rescues from judgment a family not necessary for the fulfillment of the prophecy). He must preserve the line of Eve through Abraham and on to Isaac, Jacob, and the 12 sons. That’s all I was saying. God doesn’t specifically need Lot, but chooses to save him and his family and later allow the Moabites to connect back through Ruth.
D.R. yeah… thanks for the instructions… but I eventually found a way to download them. If worse came to worse, I would have just re-recorded them.
And yes, the Ruth series is partially what I’m referring to, along with another sermon earlier in Genesis.
The Prophecy of the seed of the woman… that’s part of it… but that’s not the only prophecy I’m talking about. There’s another one that Ruth IS the fulfillment of… but most Gentiles don’t catch it.
I need to check out your Sermon on Ruth 1… you may have caught a hint of it there and I want to hear what you said before I say something you might take wrong… lemme listen and get back to you.
Trust me … Lot is in the lineage… on purpose. By design.
My reply is above. I don’t know how it ended up above your last comment.
OK, what prophecy are you pointing to in regard to the Gentiles and Ruth? I am doubtful that I brought that into play in the series on Ruth. I did speak of it in terms of the kinsman-redeemer motif, but I don’t think I went too far with the aspect of her being a Gentile – other than pointing out that the Gentiles were a part of God’s original purpose from creation and that the Jews were meant to be a light to the all the nations. I bring a lot of that out in the sermon on the Tower of Babel. But again I am not familiar with any specific prophecy you are referring to that requires Ruth to be a part of the lineage of the Seed of the Woman. Certainly Lot becomes part of the line of Jesus, but I still don’t see how it is necessary in the same way as Seth, Noah, and Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Well, I wanted to listen to the rest of your series… Because I’m betting that you read it, as a Gentile would.
I gotta take you around the barn a little bit because there are 2 laws being fulfilled… Laws that were written as Prophecy of the Messianic line. If you see the first one… Then you’ll see the one pointing to Ruth.
When you taught Ruth 4… You didn’t talk much about the rest of that genealogy that is given. Where it says, “Let thy house be like Pharez” … And a few verses later it gives the lineage from Pharez to David.
Pharez you’ll recall is the illegitimate child between the Union of Judah and Tamar (the Harlot by the side of the road) in Genesis 38. In light of the law of Deut. 23:2… Go count the generations from Pharez to David that you see at the end of Ruth 4.
When you get done with that… Look again at Deut. 23:3. And this time … Don’t look at it as a law… Look at it as a Prophecy, and start Counting.
Let me know what you find.
Buckethead,
So obviously you are saying that God prohibited the Moabites from entering the “assembly of the Lord” until the 10th generation and Ruth, being a Moabite, 10 generations from Abraham (?, maybe) would be acceptable to God, correct? Is that what you are saying?
And then you are taking Deut. 23:2-3 and declaring it to be a prophecy rather than a curse. Would that be correct?
I’m not. Jesus said it.
OK, if you want to have a discussion about the text, then I’m open to it, but this is just getting weird. Why not lay out your case and allow comments on it instead of doing this strange “around the barn” thing as you call it?
Matthew 5:18 & 11:13. Also see “Emmaus Road”.
I listened to the rest of your series… I can see why you would have a problem understanding this.
You present the scripture like a Prosecuting Attorney.
I work for the Defense Counsel.
As a fellow former Memphian… I wouldn’t say that I didn’t like your preaching.
You preach expositionally… which is a good thing.
I’ve listened to 5 of your sermons… Some twice. You have some hard things to overcome… You are trying to. The fact that you have recognized the importance of the seed of the woman is promising.
The S. Baptist Church has some traditional/historical problems with the second half of God’s Prophecy dealing with the ‘other’ seed mentioned in Genesis 3. As such… YOU are going to have a challenge trying to understand it. Scratch that. You ARE having a problem with that.
There are some other issues that I hear too… But I’m not interested in nit-picking your sermons.
I have to chuckle that you think I’m standing on my own in what I showed you. I’m not. The fact that YOU could not find it shows a lack of competency on your part… Not a lack of competency on mine.
You’ve been shown… And what has been seen… Cannot be ‘unseen’. It’s now going to bother you… And that pleases me. It doesn’t fit your Prosecutorial Paradigm, and THAT’S why you don’t like it, that ALSO pleases me. Greatly.
You know what I find most interesting in all of this is that you keep hinting at what you are trying to communicate about this “‘other’ seed mentioned in Genesis 3” as you called it. If it’s so obvious and you are so not standing on your own, then why not right here, right now, lay it out for us. You seem to want to be the teacher, so then teach! Show me where I am missing it. Stop using this vague language and condescending attitude and put your money where your mouth is – and show us all how clear this is. Then I won’t have to be so “incompetent”.
So bottom line – put your cards on the table or quit critiquing everyone else’s.
Moab would have been born within a few days or weeks (probably no more than a month) from when Isaac was born.
Use Isaac as the 1st Generation and count to 10… you get Boaz.
The problem with counting from Isaac to Boaz, of course, is that the curse (and the actions that caused the curse) didn’t come until a few generations after Isaac. So unless Moses clearly backdates this “prophecy” you don’t have a leg to stand on there. That’s fairly simple to understand. And no Biblical scholar I have ever seen has ever tried to make this argument (and I did some pretty extensive research when preaching this sermon – and pretty much all the sermons in my Adult Bible Storybook series).
You might consider that when you stand alone on something like this, it’s often an indication that you are perhaps wrong. Here I think you clearly are. There are much better are more Biblically sound theories about Ruth’s Moabite status.
The bottom line is that the Prophecy of the Seed of the Woman is made to Eve, whose line went directly to Abraham (not Lot). Abraham was given the Promise that through his heir, Isaac, God would eventually send Christ (and as I will point out this week – he will see this typified in God’s call to sacrifice Isaac – next week it will be through Jacob’s Ladder). That God would include Lot’s family is indeed merciful and a testament to His desire to bring all tribes, tongues, and nations to faith in Christ, but it’s not the fulfillment of a “prophecy” (which is not a prophecy anyway, but rather a curse).
Finally, sorry you didn’t like my preaching, but I shouldn’t be doing it to please man anyway.
Two years ago when my Father died of Brain Cancer… I got to listen to his then Pastor eulogize him and discuss how he questioned his salvation just prior to his passing. We’ll call him Pastor “X”.
Pastor “X” is a small town Pastor… He presides over 1/3 of a church that split because of his legalism. Pastor “X” had a series of Mini-strokes last year after his teen aged son was caught molesting a child.
Pastor “X” does not understand the terms “Mercy” or “Grace” outside of his legalistic Paradigm.
Neither do you.
Wow…Really?
Buckethead, you don’t know me and to compare me to someone who is legalistic and doesn’t understand mercy or grace based on a few sermons I preached and the fact that I don’t accept your paradigm of this second seed without clear Biblical proof is just…wow, I don’t have the words.
I am not going to return insult for insult here. Clearly you have no desire to lay out your position, but rather just to attack a person you don’t know. Good luck, may God open your eyes, and goodbye.
Two seeds Genesis 3:15.
You really should check yourself… You’ve been the attacking condescending, rude and insolent party here from the start.
Guess you’re one of those “angry young Calvinists” they talk about.
And you’re right… I didn’t like your sermons. The banality of them was quite consistent. You should consider selling insurance or beekeeping instead. Something actually useful to mankind.
D.R., I don’t want to tell you how to live your life, preach your sermons or interpret your Bible.
But, you seemed to be sucked into a conversation that is not likely to bear any fruit. You picked the right term, “Wow. . . just wow!”
Of course you are free to subject yourself to these manner of insults, but if you’d like a word of encouragement: “don’t.”
There is a term for somebody that sees things nobody else sees.
D.R.–
Good response.
Frank,
Yeah I was hoping at some point Buckethead was going to lay out his/her position, but I was wrong. The whole thing got silly really fast.
Doug,
Thanks for the encouragement. While they shouldn’t, these sorts of strange exchanges do bother me personally – especially ones that get personal for no real discernible reason.
“There is a term for somebody that sees things nobody else sees.”
That term is PROPHET.
So sorry that you guys were small enough to denigrate someone who was truly excited to share some biblical insights with you.
However… Its always good to remember that the knives in my back are from people who consider themselves “Ministers of the Lord”.
Pray tell Frank?