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Who “fully supports” the Cooperative Program?

March 27, 2018 by William Thornton

Since no Southern Baptist church is forced to give to our wonderful, common, funding mechanism the Cooperative Program, how helpful is it to classify any church's percentage CP giving as fully cooperative or less than fully cooperative and more of an indicator of societal giving? My view is that in isolation, using a church's CP percentage as a measure of their cooperativeness or of their Southernbaptistness is ultimately harmful. Randy Adams, the Executive Director of the SBC state convention known as the Northwest Baptist Convention, an area covering Oregon, Washington, and northern … [Read more...] about Who “fully supports” the Cooperative Program?

Most SBC mission support is still Cooperative Program, not societal

March 25, 2018 by William Thornton

Fears that the SBC may be returning to a societal method of mission support are unfounded if one looks at dollars given by the churches. While it is impossible to compile and categorize all mission giving by the 47,232 SBC churches, the data that is available seems sufficient to conclude that in spite of all the handwringing over the demise of the Cooperative Program, most church support for SBC causes is still through our venerable and wonderful Cooperative Program. Here are a few factoids: The total CP for 2015-2016 was $475.2 million. The total for the designated major offerings … [Read more...] about Most SBC mission support is still Cooperative Program, not societal

What is this “neo-societal method of giving” that Ken Hemphill writes about?

March 22, 2018 by William Thornton

Churches have reduced their level of giving, and, many have moved to a method of giving that is neo-societal: They give a small percentage through the traditional Cooperative Program option and then give the remainder of their mission dollars through designated giving, some to Southern Baptist entities and some through other mission agencies.  – Ken Hemphill, in an article on his Louisiana Baptist Convention hosted campaign website. Money is an issue in SBC life, particularly the systems of giving and allocation of SBC churches denominational gifts. I don't object to anyone raising … [Read more...] about What is this “neo-societal method of giving” that Ken Hemphill writes about?

Church treasurer arrested after funds go missing

March 21, 2018 by William Thornton

...the alleged embezzlement amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars and that many mission offerings and pastor’s retirement payments for a 23-year period were unpaid. Hannibal-area church treasurer arrested after funds go missing The lament of church financial advisors and accountants is that they cannot get churches and pastors to pay attention to the fact that they are highly susceptible to having church money stolen by trusted members who are volunteer treasurers and secretaries. The quote above ought to get the pastor's attention. I have to stifle the feeling that there's … [Read more...] about Church treasurer arrested after funds go missing

Satellite SBC meetings and remote voting: the best terrible idea around

March 17, 2018 by William Thornton

Happens every spring: someone has a eureka moment and asks, "Why can't the SBC Annual Meeting be held in both a central location and numerous satellite locations?" The arguments are always the same. Some tout benefits seen as inherently positive and some arguments express a dissatisfaction with current decisions of the SBC that would be solved by greatly broadened participation. Here's a sampling of comments.. There is no way my church can afford to send messengers all over the country, but we could get to a central location in our state.  It would be awesome to be able to go to an … [Read more...] about Satellite SBC meetings and remote voting: the best terrible idea around

What will leadership changes bring in the southern, legacy state conventions?

March 15, 2018 by William Thornton

One of the questions that the folks at SBC This Week asked, in January of 2017, was, "Will we start to see leadership transitions in southern states?" The answer for that year was, "no" but this year the answer will be "yes." The 14 "southern" states with 16 of the SBC's 42 state conventions make up most of the SBC's giving and other stats, 90% or more of some. These are SBC Virginia BGA Virginia North Carolina South Carolina Georgia Florida Alabama Mississippi Louisiana BGC Texas SB Texas C Oklahoma Missouri Arkansas Kentucky … [Read more...] about What will leadership changes bring in the southern, legacy state conventions?

Let’s take a look at “The 10-3-10-50 Plan for Southern Baptist Cooperation”

March 13, 2018 by William Thornton

This article is an evaluation of and reaction to a suggested giving plan for Southern Baptist individuals, churches, state conventions, and Executive Committee made by Rick Patrick on his site. He calls it "The 10-3-10-50 Plan for Southern Baptist Cooperation" a rather unwieldy but descriptive title. Here...but  pay no attention to the other nonsense there.) The numbers are percentages: 10%, an individual's tithe to their local church; 3%, the percentage of the local church's undesignated giving to their local association; 10%, the percentage of the local church's undesignated … [Read more...] about Let’s take a look at “The 10-3-10-50 Plan for Southern Baptist Cooperation”

What will the rest of 2018 bring for Southern Baptists?

March 5, 2018 by William Thornton

I'm a little late, so sue me. Being retired, I'm not on anyone's time deadline. Will the average church Cooperative Program percentage crash through the 5% barrier? The average church gives 5.16% of their undesignated offerings through the Cooperative Program, as reported by the SBC Executive Committee for the latest available period, 2015-2016. The old 10% goal, the church's "tithe" to the CP, is a relic of the distant past. Whatever entity leaders are saying about increasing the CP percentage, I suspect that they're not looking in the rearview mirror at 10% but rather on the road ahead on … [Read more...] about What will the rest of 2018 bring for Southern Baptists?

Here’s the list showing the long line of Calvinistic SBC presidents

February 20, 2018 by William Thornton

It's looking, sadly, like some in the SBC will be consumed by a hot denominational war over the SBC presidency. A few colleagues have objected to the martial terminology. While I think it is a good fit, in consideration of the sensitivities of the most militant participants, I'll call it a clerical collar ecclesiastical conflict. That's the kind where folks in suits smile at you and offer syrupy Christian fellowship platitudes from behind their howitzers. Since, according to some, our denomination faces a critical moment, a crucial election, the first such of year-after-year-after-year … [Read more...] about Here’s the list showing the long line of Calvinistic SBC presidents

Quotes of interest to Southern Baptists

February 19, 2018 by William Thornton

Russell Moore, "I think gun control proponents are misguided in trying to persuade others of their position in the way they usually go about it,” Moore wrote in an email. “There are not two sides here about whether shootings should be stopped, laws enforced, and criminality punished, but rather two sides about whether gun control is a prudent way to carry out those common goals.” Source. Russell Moore:  “We live in a fallen world where things are not as they are supposed to be. I turn directly to the cross to show that God is not distant from this evil. He took that upon himself. Jesus also … [Read more...] about Quotes of interest to Southern Baptists

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